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military guy Pilots got his own podcast

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now uh he's coming to us from Portugal

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my uh my family's Homeland so I think

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it's night time over there it's early

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afternoon here for us Jay I know you're

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lucky for us yeah yeah I know you got

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more about him and he's a yeah he's a

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fat a little bit here we'll talk about

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all the big late breaking things and

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the music we'll be right back with Chris

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welcome back to another episode of UAP

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studies podcast my name is Louis Borges

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joining me as always my best buddy and

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co-host Mr Jason Gilman hey I want to

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wish you a happy birthday buddy you just

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turned 40 yesterday it is uh April 16th

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today we're recording this he was trying

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to steep by and not let me know it was

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his birthday and I caught on I'm not a

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big birthday guy ever since I grew out

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of it being not cool to have a party

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with your buddies anymore I never really

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but 40th is a big deal yeah I think I

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40. I think I look all right I used my

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wife's fancy face cream so yeah here we

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are allows us to do this for a living

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and we're joined by another content

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creator and a military guy a UAP

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Enthusiast he's our kind of guys so

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today's guest is a retired F-16 pilot

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flew for over 18 years he's a journalist

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also at the Portugal news uh he hosts

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the podcast the ladle files and he is DC

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CEO of uapsociety.com so very excited to

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welcome our new friend Mr Chris Ledo

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yeah thank you very much Liz thanks

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welcome thanks Jason

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thanks for being on the show um so for

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our guests that or our sorry our

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audience that may not know about you

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maybe just briefly tell us a little bit

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about yourself uh your military career

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and then how that led into now producing

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your own show about UAP and high

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Texas uh didn't want to live like a

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normal Suburban lifestyle and uh sat

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about the Air Force Academy and it

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very difficult and terrible at times and

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they're just like yeah go ahead and quit

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the Pensacola so I went to Pensacola

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pilot training so you can select your

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pilot slots because all the there's

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air force you can go ROTC uh where at

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ROTC programs which is basically little

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military programs there and they'll give

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training which is you know supposedly

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training it was originally going to be a

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program which is an amazing program in

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Europe it's basically a good educational

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just so awesome and then you like go and

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drink beers at night you know and then

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pilot needed something to do and you

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that are inefficient or dumb or just

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plain stupid and yeah I want to and

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contribute I guess to the the large

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neural network that I think we're all a

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part of so I wanted to get your thoughts

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on uh military people their and their

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experiences but also kind of the

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opinions that they're left with and

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to find out in Kevin days like they love

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thing and you know remarkably change

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from his experience have you noticed

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people the way they treated you or from

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the phenomena itself like you know kind

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of rattling your world and he's like

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both he's like and I think he's gone

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through the full array of emotions but

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good thing they're you know they love us

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they care about us and then some other

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guys are very much threat narrative not

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cool we need to know you know if there's

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bigger deal so uh it's just maybe it's

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experience they're gonna carry that

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baggage but I was I was gonna say not

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only on on our show but Chris's uh

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program you see people

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for better for worse they all have

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experiences they all have an emotional

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response to what took place whether it's

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negative or positive or neutral but it's

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weird they all have an emotional

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response to it which is important if

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somebody's telling you a fib or a lie

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they wouldn't be that emotional about it

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right usually they're quite disconnected

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but these guys are it's an emotional

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impact that they've had so even you know

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watching Chris sometimes into people

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there's something there like these these

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folks have actually experienced

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something enough that it creates that

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how many years later since the incident

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and Kevin's still emotional about it

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fascinating

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do you have a preferred subject matter

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Chris that you like to discuss do you

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like to go one way or the other in terms

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of the phenomena

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the recent video where it was the single

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out in Australia you know I called it

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the narindu plasma UAP just because I

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Star Wars or something sounds like it

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yeah and when you first see it it looks

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like a flashlight you know

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But ultimately at the end of the day

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like I didn't after it was three months

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you know you get all these compelling

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inner you know you're trying to figure

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out if it's fake you know basically I

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look at the interview at the at the

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video

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um and I'm like okay but at the end of

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the day anything can be faked you know

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literally anything

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and so it like

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you know talking about how to improve at

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UAP studies et cetera how to investigate

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you know I'm definitely learning as I go

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and

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often painful you know but it's the

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quickest way because I know that uh the

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community it's like having uh uh two

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sides in a political you know discussion

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right as long as you're aimed at each

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other and you're checking each other's I

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guess uh work you should come to a

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better answer

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um but in that case yeah what do you do

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you know it's single Source I nothing

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really can prove it it seems like a

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compelling

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interview you know but I post it and I

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got a lot of comments saying like uh I'm

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bringing the I'm moving the the

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discussion backwards

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you know it's and you mentioned maybe at

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the beginning where you know your UAP

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studies podcast excuse me uh is more

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focused on scientific efforts you know

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so I guess what would you guys would you

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guys

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not publish that video you know or what

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do you guys think we get Flack too we

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had an experience around last week we

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don't do many just because of the fact

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that it's hard to corroborate but if you

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just Chase lights in the sky you only

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get so much so let's we thought let's

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talk to some people hit every angle we

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can right the burden of proof is not on

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us it's on the Observer take everything

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in and make your own judgment right so

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but yeah we had people that say hey it

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was nice to see you guys went down that

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Avenue and and talked to somebody and

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other people saying we lost credibility

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because we let some guy tell his story

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right so we're not promoting anybody

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we're not getting paid by these people

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or you know there's no benefit to us

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we're just saying hey consider this and

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if we want to make this like an

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encyclopedia series you may not enjoy

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every chapter but there will be a

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chapter for you with specifically what

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you want but yeah we noticed it too if

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we stray too far off of what we've done

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forever we get some Flack and then if we

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don't stray people are going to say it's

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the same so you I don't think you ever

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make them all happen and even to your

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point about your video I would have

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published it like it was a good video HD

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I mean it's high quality and even you

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you've actually broke it down and showed

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different clips of you know lights

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um you know different shutter speeds you

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know that the light intensifies you know

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a green light will become white a red

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light would come white right but in the

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video you can actually clearly see the

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differences between the colors in an HD

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format so if it was intriguing and I

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would have posted it myself uh I I I

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think there's something there and if

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it's a flashlight you catch on pretty

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fast it's a flashlight and flashlight

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doesn't behave that way there's some

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similarities but not to the way the

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video was yeah I think it's it it has to

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be a dedicated hoax you know and that

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was kind of the

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I guess that's what I went with you know

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if I just found this video online and

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there's nobody there to answer anything

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you know you see all these videos on

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Youtube it'll just be some video you

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know and there's no there's no links

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there's no discussion or notes or

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anything you know and for that you're

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like obviously I wouldn't have taken

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that and published it right yeah but

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here's like there's this person who who

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will answer any any question I ask you

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know that in seemingly

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good faith you know who knows just and

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I'm not paying him right and so it's

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like

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you know what is the benefit there am I

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just getting just totally posed or you

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know it just doesn't make sense so it's

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it's interesting enough to look into it

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um but I think it does highlight that at

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the end of the day even if he's

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legitimate fully legitimate I can't

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prove it either you know it's impossible

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to prove that it's real it can only be

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proved that it's fake it's what I found

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so it's impossible to prove that it's

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real so what we really need is it kind

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of highlights what is necessary to prove

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something is even real

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and I and I think you just need multiple

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videos from the same thing yeah and

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multiple as many as you can human

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Witnesses

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is I think you know if single source is

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just never going to do it no and you

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mentioned this gentleman uh goes by the

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name Alias I think Michael uh but there

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was somebody else that was with him when

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that video was recorded and you said you

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haven't heard back from that person yet

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and that's yeah that's also you know I

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figured also publishing the video

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you know getting it out there and if

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it's done in a in a good manner

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um then that could possibly encourage

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her to contact me in the future

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wait um and get more just more

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cooperation and good things I just like

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to push and and something's going to

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happen you know right because I'm I

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figure the important part is uh

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it should be the end result you know and

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if if your intention is is in is correct

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and obviously I don't want to push the

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subject backwards right but it's from

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what I've seen is the subject hasn't

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moved anywhere in 80 years so it's kind

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of like let's push as hard as we can in

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any direction you know right and maybe

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we'll put the bag will break in One

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Direction or the other I I don't I don't

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think uh having less debate about these

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things is the right way to go and I've

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already learned a lot just in terms of

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investigating you know I learned about

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uh right away I'm going to get metadata

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as soon as I can or make sure I get the

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the original uh film or video with the

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metadata in it which which is just

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basically like notes that tell you when

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it was taken according to the camera you

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know the date in the camera system and

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uh the shutter speeds and basically

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basic things like that um maybe the GPS

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coordinates if the phone has GPS you

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know supposedly in this instance it

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doesn't have it didn't have GPS that

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phone

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I actually didn't so I would get the

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metadata right well right away that

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being said you can easily fake metadata

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right so you can easily just go in there

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and you can edit the metadata and you

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can change the metadata so again what

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I've learned is at the end of the day it

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doesn't really I can never prove it real

447
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you know but getting more data would

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filter through the the falses you know

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it could filter through the face because

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it just it's another hurdle that they

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have to follow you know it's another

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little data point that you can you know

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layer over all the other data points to

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make it make sure it lines up right yeah

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for sure and I've heard you say that you

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know the breakthroughs in science come

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from the fringes right like discoveries

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are made from those outliers so if you

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don't look at different things and you

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know

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um reason all of it you're not going to

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find new information if you just keep

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looking down that same Rabbit Hole

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you're going to keep getting the same

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answer and I watched a portion of one of

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your episodes where you were going

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through the Aero report and you were

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saying that basically it's a limited

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data set they're not factoring in

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everything and you can't do good science

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really unless you look at everything so

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I wanted to get a little more of your

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thoughts in regards to that

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I think 100 you know

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if you collect enough data I really feel

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like we can kind of see through a lot of

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the

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picture

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like it let's say we conduct we collect

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enough data points

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and and let's say all of those like UFO

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reports and all all of those UFO reports

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are fake

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um

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that will be that is a very useful data

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point to some to something you know

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there will be some way to leverage that

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to figure out that information right it

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you have to have data to actually do

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anything yeah you know having no data is

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just like you're just in the dark you're

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just roaming around in the dark so you

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need data even if it's fake right even

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if it's fake it's it's real data it's

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it's fake data but it is a data point of

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something right even if it gives you a

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an idea of just mental psychosis you

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know even it gives you an idea of who

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are the people that are faking UFOs you

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know or or what is the what are the

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methods

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um so in that way I figure I do videos

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because I want to get to the to the end

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answer and I publish a video every week

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so I want to do if I can learn every

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week

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then it seems like you know if it goes

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on long enough then I'll get there you

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know even if so if I can't investigate

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it well now

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I'm never going to get better unless I

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start investigating cases and Publishing

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them you know and that's really why I

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figured I even with this I have to

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publish it um

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but yeah focus on the sky 360 stuff just

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aims it it just it you know focuses me

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more on that stuff because it it's

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what's needed I think yeah it's it's

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funny you mentioned the data we were

521
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just chatting with Avi Loeb a couple

522
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hours ago and that's what he was saying

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he says people give me a hard time

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because I don't go into the world of

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imaginative he says but science does not

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have an opinion he says Everyone's

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entitled to an opinion but if all you're

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going to do is fight over whose opinion

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is right or wrong you never get anywhere

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if it's math it is one answer that's it

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no longer can you have a say and I have

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a say the data is the data so he's just

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blindly focused on finding irrefutable

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evidence that nobody can throw stones at

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so you know we joke around an egg with

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them and we're like you know is there a

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real UFO guy in there is this just

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science or what but no and he laughs but

539
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he he comes back to the point of how

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important it is to just stay data

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focused because eventually you will find

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something you know and uh so you know

543
00:19:47,930 --> 00:19:46,380
even hearing that at the upper echelon

544
00:19:49,669 --> 00:19:47,940
there are people that are trying to

545
00:19:51,710 --> 00:19:49,679
simplify it kind of like we are whether

546
00:19:53,870 --> 00:19:51,720
it's putting up content talking with

547
00:19:55,310 --> 00:19:53,880
interesting people whatever you know to

548
00:19:56,990 --> 00:19:55,320
your point if you keep going long and

549
00:19:58,850 --> 00:19:57,000
enough eventually you're going to get

550
00:20:00,590 --> 00:19:58,860
there right so

551
00:20:02,810 --> 00:20:00,600
I also think that

552
00:20:05,090 --> 00:20:02,820
one of the key points you know when when

553
00:20:07,250 --> 00:20:05,100
abilo talks about data though he doesn't

554
00:20:09,710 --> 00:20:07,260
take into account like any of the

555
00:20:13,130 --> 00:20:09,720
witness data right you know what about

556
00:20:17,090 --> 00:20:13,140
all of the thousands of you know

557
00:20:19,370 --> 00:20:17,100
anecdotal accounts of these crafts or of

558
00:20:20,570 --> 00:20:19,380
these signings or abductions of these

559
00:20:22,730 --> 00:20:20,580
experiences

560
00:20:25,010 --> 00:20:22,740
what did he say about that did he does

561
00:20:27,049 --> 00:20:25,020
he even take those into account well we

562
00:20:28,909 --> 00:20:27,059
we tried pressing them on that he's been

563
00:20:30,890 --> 00:20:28,919
on two times and here's the thing

564
00:20:33,169 --> 00:20:30,900
there's enough anecdotal evidence on the

565
00:20:34,909 --> 00:20:33,179
UFO subject you could win a trial in a

566
00:20:37,250 --> 00:20:34,919
court of law but in the court of

567
00:20:39,409 --> 00:20:37,260
people's opinion and in in dealing with

568
00:20:41,270 --> 00:20:39,419
things like religion and politics you

569
00:20:43,970 --> 00:20:41,280
can't just interject with more opinion

570
00:20:47,210 --> 00:20:43,980
the only way to get people to unite is

571
00:20:49,130 --> 00:20:47,220
with facts so he sees it as a diversion

572
00:20:51,470 --> 00:20:49,140
from getting closer to the truth the

573
00:20:53,810 --> 00:20:51,480
more we discuss anecdote let's just

574
00:20:55,310 --> 00:20:53,820
worry and like some people say hey you

575
00:20:56,810 --> 00:20:55,320
can't just focus on lights in the sky

576
00:20:59,450 --> 00:20:56,820
you got to talk to the experiencers

577
00:21:01,370 --> 00:20:59,460
which I agree and he's saying screw the

578
00:21:03,529 --> 00:21:01,380
experiencers you can't prove it if I

579
00:21:06,350 --> 00:21:03,539
focus on lights in the sky and Galileo

580
00:21:08,630 --> 00:21:06,360
project gives real evidence we're good

581
00:21:10,789 --> 00:21:08,640
like I will have stuff that nobody can

582
00:21:12,650 --> 00:21:10,799
then break down so it's not like he's

583
00:21:14,810 --> 00:21:12,660
throwing out that portion I don't

584
00:21:16,490 --> 00:21:14,820
believe I just think he's more focused

585
00:21:17,810 --> 00:21:16,500
on things that people can't throw stones

586
00:21:22,130 --> 00:21:17,820
at

587
00:21:24,350 --> 00:21:22,140
playing it safe too because he is a

588
00:21:26,330 --> 00:21:24,360
Harvard Professor an astronomer he's got

589
00:21:27,950 --> 00:21:26,340
a big reputation and he's working on a

590
00:21:29,510 --> 00:21:27,960
lot of things so so he didn't really

591
00:21:31,850 --> 00:21:29,520
give us a straight answer to answer your

592
00:21:34,370 --> 00:21:31,860
question but he's more convinced that

593
00:21:36,409 --> 00:21:34,380
the data alone will lead us home

594
00:21:38,870 --> 00:21:36,419
but to your point I think we should take

595
00:21:41,510 --> 00:21:38,880
in the witness account because again if

596
00:21:44,090 --> 00:21:41,520
this was a court and you had 25 or 25

597
00:21:46,250 --> 00:21:44,100
million Witnesses it would be open and

598
00:21:48,710 --> 00:21:46,260
shut case but even like within the

599
00:21:51,529 --> 00:21:48,720
subject of that you have a like the

600
00:21:53,390 --> 00:21:51,539
Department of Defense or congress that's

601
00:21:54,710 --> 00:21:53,400
at uh what is he called now I have a

602
00:21:56,110 --> 00:21:54,720
hard time with their acronyms I can't

603
00:21:59,330 --> 00:21:56,120
keep up with them but their

604
00:22:01,549 --> 00:21:59,340
investigation into uaps and it's an

605
00:22:02,890 --> 00:22:01,559
all-domain thing right like so it's it's

606
00:22:05,930 --> 00:22:02,900
space

607
00:22:09,169 --> 00:22:05,940
Arrow Arrow thank you all to main

608
00:22:11,210 --> 00:22:09,179
anomaly resolution office yes but I love

609
00:22:12,950 --> 00:22:11,220
that resolution office like yeah we're

610
00:22:14,630 --> 00:22:12,960
so lucky we're going to figure this

611
00:22:16,669 --> 00:22:14,640
thing out and just resolve it that's

612
00:22:19,909 --> 00:22:16,679
what we're here for like yeah let's get

613
00:22:21,649 --> 00:22:19,919
this done yeah yeah but yeah no even

614
00:22:23,750 --> 00:22:21,659
with their reports they don't mention

615
00:22:25,370 --> 00:22:23,760
when these things land right there's no

616
00:22:27,470 --> 00:22:25,380
mention of that and then what about the

617
00:22:29,630 --> 00:22:27,480
interactions that people are having or

618
00:22:31,970 --> 00:22:29,640
saying that they're having with these

619
00:22:34,010 --> 00:22:31,980
occupants of these crafts be it good or

620
00:22:35,930 --> 00:22:34,020
bad they don't mention that at all it's

621
00:22:38,330 --> 00:22:35,940
almost so good we're willing to

622
00:22:39,770 --> 00:22:38,340
investigate if they're real but we don't

623
00:22:41,810 --> 00:22:39,780
want to address all these other sub

624
00:22:44,090 --> 00:22:41,820
sections that come along with the

625
00:22:46,310 --> 00:22:44,100
possibilities that these things are real

626
00:22:47,930 --> 00:22:46,320
and there's a there's a lot to it how

627
00:22:50,210 --> 00:22:47,940
far down the rabbit hole have you gone

628
00:22:51,770 --> 00:22:50,220
Chris like where did this lead you like

629
00:22:54,950 --> 00:22:51,780
from start to now

630
00:22:57,049 --> 00:22:54,960
how wide is as you're uh basically

631
00:23:00,770 --> 00:22:57,059
opinion on this subject like how much

632
00:23:07,549 --> 00:23:04,549
a lot I think 180 180 degrees Yeah well

633
00:23:09,430 --> 00:23:07,559
yeah I went from believing that um you

634
00:23:12,049 --> 00:23:09,440
know there's no

635
00:23:13,430 --> 00:23:12,059
there's nothing past the material realm

636
00:23:15,529 --> 00:23:13,440
you know to being like well that doesn't

637
00:23:17,450 --> 00:23:15,539
make any sense yeah and once you say

638
00:23:20,630 --> 00:23:17,460
well that doesn't make any and backed by

639
00:23:22,730 --> 00:23:20,640
physics apparently you know uh once

640
00:23:24,830 --> 00:23:22,740
you've I guess come to that realization

641
00:23:25,909 --> 00:23:24,840
or consider that or believe that or

642
00:23:27,850 --> 00:23:25,919
whatever then

643
00:23:30,950 --> 00:23:27,860
you know there's the

644
00:23:33,770 --> 00:23:30,960
extrapolations are almost too too much

645
00:23:35,570 --> 00:23:33,780
you know that's why you mentioned um

646
00:23:37,789 --> 00:23:35,580
Lewis you were talking about

647
00:23:39,470 --> 00:23:37,799
um the variation in

648
00:23:40,490 --> 00:23:39,480
in thoughts on the matter and I think

649
00:23:44,090 --> 00:23:40,500
there's just

650
00:23:46,970 --> 00:23:44,100
because nobody knows and the the truth I

651
00:23:48,890 --> 00:23:46,980
think or we don't know at least and so

652
00:23:51,649 --> 00:23:48,900
your extrapolations just get so crazy

653
00:23:53,990 --> 00:23:51,659
yeah and we become a Target because they

654
00:23:55,730 --> 00:23:54,000
always say never discuss two things with

655
00:23:58,789 --> 00:23:55,740
your close friends religion and politics

656
00:24:01,190 --> 00:23:58,799
and this topic is on a knife blade for

657
00:24:03,409 --> 00:24:01,200
both because if there is alternate life

658
00:24:04,970 --> 00:24:03,419
that might shake some fundamental

659
00:24:07,310 --> 00:24:04,980
religious beliefs that if it's not

660
00:24:09,230 --> 00:24:07,320
written here it never happened and if

661
00:24:10,909 --> 00:24:09,240
it's true and the government has known

662
00:24:13,130 --> 00:24:10,919
about it and choose to conceal it

663
00:24:16,250 --> 00:24:13,140
there's major government and political

664
00:24:19,490 --> 00:24:16,260
implications so we're one toe in one toe

665
00:24:21,950 --> 00:24:19,500
out on two very polarizing topics but

666
00:24:24,110 --> 00:24:21,960
yet somehow we find Unity even the

667
00:24:25,909 --> 00:24:24,120
people that agree and disagree you know

668
00:24:28,070 --> 00:24:25,919
we don't go to war over it we seem to

669
00:24:29,870 --> 00:24:28,080
handle it better even though don't go on

670
00:24:32,690 --> 00:24:29,880
UFO Twitter because it will it'll show

671
00:24:34,610 --> 00:24:32,700
the worst of humankind has to offer but

672
00:24:36,350 --> 00:24:34,620
it also shows the passion behind this

673
00:24:38,390 --> 00:24:36,360
like we really want to figure it out

674
00:24:40,130 --> 00:24:38,400
there's guys trying to put a wooden peg

675
00:24:43,310 --> 00:24:40,140
in a round hole and there's people

676
00:24:45,350 --> 00:24:43,320
search in the desert for water but the

677
00:24:47,930 --> 00:24:45,360
passion behind it it's changed so many

678
00:24:49,730 --> 00:24:47,940
people's lives motivated and I mean you

679
00:24:51,049 --> 00:24:49,740
talk to any witness they really don't

680
00:24:52,430 --> 00:24:51,059
care whether you believe them or not

681
00:24:54,890 --> 00:24:52,440
they know what they saw

682
00:24:57,169 --> 00:24:54,900
even if it is psychosis right it's hard

683
00:24:59,810 --> 00:24:57,179
to to speak to somebody when their mind

684
00:25:01,730 --> 00:24:59,820
is that well formed so I do like the

685
00:25:04,070 --> 00:25:01,740
scientific approach but but it's hard

686
00:25:05,630 --> 00:25:04,080
not to imagine and have your you know if

687
00:25:07,370 --> 00:25:05,640
you go where the data is and we

688
00:25:09,409 --> 00:25:07,380
interview Jacques valet and he's changed

689
00:25:11,090 --> 00:25:09,419
his mind a dozen times yeah that's the

690
00:25:13,070 --> 00:25:11,100
only way you're gonna get closer if you

691
00:25:15,289 --> 00:25:13,080
just throw out the inconvenient truths

692
00:25:17,210 --> 00:25:15,299
you're not really doing yourself a favor

693
00:25:20,390 --> 00:25:17,220
right

694
00:25:21,950 --> 00:25:20,400
exactly yeah and I guess I I've I have

695
00:25:25,130 --> 00:25:21,960
that luxury

696
00:25:26,570 --> 00:25:25,140
you kind of mentioned avilo he has you

697
00:25:28,549 --> 00:25:26,580
know he is limited by a lot of things

698
00:25:30,350 --> 00:25:28,559
you know his basically his position his

699
00:25:32,570 --> 00:25:30,360
background his his career and he's

700
00:25:34,669 --> 00:25:32,580
leading the Galileo project Etc

701
00:25:36,350 --> 00:25:34,679
so yeah he is limited so I could you

702
00:25:39,350 --> 00:25:36,360
know I can definitely see that so I'm

703
00:25:40,970 --> 00:25:39,360
not but I'm not so it's awesome I've set

704
00:25:43,010 --> 00:25:40,980
it up you know I should even probably

705
00:25:45,649 --> 00:25:43,020
take sponsors just to make a little bit

706
00:25:48,590 --> 00:25:45,659
more cash but I I don't you know because

707
00:25:50,930 --> 00:25:48,600
I don't want us I spent 20 years 24

708
00:25:52,130 --> 00:25:50,940
years you know in the Air Force on you

709
00:25:55,549 --> 00:25:52,140
know

710
00:25:56,510 --> 00:25:55,559
in under the man's thumb no this is

711
00:25:59,390 --> 00:25:56,520
amazing

712
00:26:02,090 --> 00:25:59,400
um I I did really love it

713
00:26:04,190 --> 00:26:02,100
um yeah but oh your your Air Force time

714
00:26:06,529 --> 00:26:04,200
your Air Force time sounds a lot like

715
00:26:08,870 --> 00:26:06,539
Top Gun and Maverick you know just uh

716
00:26:10,370 --> 00:26:08,880
you had a blast flying and you had all

717
00:26:12,649 --> 00:26:10,380
these opportunities and stuff like that

718
00:26:14,510 --> 00:26:12,659
comes in just out of curiosity side

719
00:26:16,850 --> 00:26:14,520
question has nothing to do with uaps

720
00:26:18,590 --> 00:26:16,860
UFOs but how realistic are those movies

721
00:26:19,909 --> 00:26:18,600
just because some of those Maneuvers I

722
00:26:22,070 --> 00:26:19,919
think there's no way they could pull it

723
00:26:24,529 --> 00:26:22,080
off so I'd like to ask somebody who's

724
00:26:27,350 --> 00:26:24,539
actually flown in F-16 is this possible

725
00:26:29,330 --> 00:26:27,360
yeah you should um if you like the top

726
00:26:30,409 --> 00:26:29,340
gun Maverick movie I loved it you should

727
00:26:32,570 --> 00:26:30,419
check out

728
00:26:35,390 --> 00:26:32,580
um my review video I make on it yeah

729
00:26:37,370 --> 00:26:35,400
okay yeah I spent a lot of time on it I

730
00:26:39,529 --> 00:26:37,380
was like this video is gonna gonna do

731
00:26:41,029 --> 00:26:39,539
awesome it's great video I like you know

732
00:26:42,230 --> 00:26:41,039
I watched it again I I mentioned on

733
00:26:44,690 --> 00:26:42,240
another podcast and then watched it

734
00:26:48,049 --> 00:26:44,700
after and nobody watched it it was like

735
00:26:51,409 --> 00:26:48,059
oh really yeah you don't care I spent

736
00:26:53,210 --> 00:26:51,419
all this stuff uh no whatever I mean but

737
00:26:54,590 --> 00:26:53,220
I yeah it's a great movie and they did a

738
00:26:56,570 --> 00:26:54,600
great job in that movie actually the

739
00:26:58,789 --> 00:26:56,580
realism yeah I mean it's obviously

740
00:27:01,130 --> 00:26:58,799
Hollywood and that's not

741
00:27:02,210 --> 00:27:01,140
it's not actually how it is but it's a

742
00:27:04,789 --> 00:27:02,220
it's a

743
00:27:06,289 --> 00:27:04,799
you know the book perspective of it you

744
00:27:07,669 --> 00:27:06,299
know there's definitely many of the

745
00:27:08,870 --> 00:27:07,679
elements are real yeah I go through a

746
00:27:10,010 --> 00:27:08,880
lot you know I took notes when I was

747
00:27:11,510 --> 00:27:10,020
watching the movie and we watched it

748
00:27:12,950 --> 00:27:11,520
again so we yeah we liked it a lot it's

749
00:27:14,090 --> 00:27:12,960
a great movie I thought it was really

750
00:27:16,730 --> 00:27:14,100
well

751
00:27:18,649 --> 00:27:16,740
one of the sections that for me linked

752
00:27:20,810 --> 00:27:18,659
it to the UFO stuff was when he was in

753
00:27:23,210 --> 00:27:20,820
that really fast plane and I think he's

754
00:27:25,250 --> 00:27:23,220
flying up Mach 9 at this point or

755
00:27:27,049 --> 00:27:25,260
something it's ridiculous but for him to

756
00:27:28,669 --> 00:27:27,059
be able to turn it would take him an

757
00:27:30,409 --> 00:27:28,679
entire State and I forget which state

758
00:27:32,450 --> 00:27:30,419
they mentioned but it would take him

759
00:27:36,289 --> 00:27:32,460
that much space to be able to make a

760
00:27:38,330 --> 00:27:36,299
turn and these uaps and UFOs that Pilots

761
00:27:41,269 --> 00:27:38,340
like yourself are reporting

762
00:27:43,310 --> 00:27:41,279
go from one direction to a right angle

763
00:27:45,230 --> 00:27:43,320
right away and never lose speed or

764
00:27:46,970 --> 00:27:45,240
momentum it doesn't take them a long

765
00:27:50,149 --> 00:27:46,980
time to do that they could just do it on

766
00:27:52,010 --> 00:27:50,159
the blink as somebody who's flown planes

767
00:27:53,690 --> 00:27:52,020
as much as you have like what would

768
00:27:55,789 --> 00:27:53,700
happen to you physically

769
00:27:57,529 --> 00:27:55,799
with the current loss of fixes it says

770
00:27:59,630 --> 00:27:57,539
we understand and experience them what

771
00:28:03,110 --> 00:27:59,640
would happen to you if you were aboard a

772
00:28:05,210 --> 00:28:03,120
something that's able to do that

773
00:28:08,210 --> 00:28:05,220
yeah I mean

774
00:28:10,630 --> 00:28:08,220
I guess the limit is is nine G's for

775
00:28:13,130 --> 00:28:10,640
aircraft a human in an aircraft

776
00:28:14,210 --> 00:28:13,140
essentially sustained you notice you're

777
00:28:16,549 --> 00:28:14,220
not going to be able to pull more than

778
00:28:18,230 --> 00:28:16,559
nine times of gravity which is is how

779
00:28:19,549 --> 00:28:18,240
fast you can turn essentially you know

780
00:28:21,529 --> 00:28:19,559
how fast you can accelerate is really

781
00:28:23,450 --> 00:28:21,539
how fast you can turn so the problem is

782
00:28:25,190 --> 00:28:23,460
if you're going so fast this way and you

783
00:28:27,169 --> 00:28:25,200
go to turn that way now

784
00:28:29,269 --> 00:28:27,179
you're only you're limited to nine G's

785
00:28:30,950 --> 00:28:29,279
and that's why that turn radius is so

786
00:28:33,230 --> 00:28:30,960
big you know that's why it takes so many

787
00:28:34,190 --> 00:28:33,240
miles and miles to turn right same thing

788
00:28:37,010 --> 00:28:34,200
if you're fighting you know if you're

789
00:28:38,750 --> 00:28:37,020
going to get in into a dog fight and uh

790
00:28:42,230 --> 00:28:38,760
and and some people do the younger guys

791
00:28:44,390 --> 00:28:42,240
maybe mess up uh if they if they merge

792
00:28:46,549 --> 00:28:44,400
if you merge with them then you're going

793
00:28:48,830 --> 00:28:46,559
they're going supersonic

794
00:28:50,210 --> 00:28:48,840
uh the the problem is your turn circle

795
00:28:52,669 --> 00:28:50,220
gets much much bigger when you're

796
00:28:55,250 --> 00:28:52,679
supersonic you know so if I'm at 0.98

797
00:28:57,649 --> 00:28:55,260
Mach I'll turn right behind you if

798
00:28:59,090 --> 00:28:57,659
you're going 1.0 Mach actually you'll

799
00:29:01,070 --> 00:28:59,100
just be way out in front and I'll just

800
00:29:02,870 --> 00:29:01,080
turn right behind you and shoot you so

801
00:29:05,390 --> 00:29:02,880
wow

802
00:29:07,130 --> 00:29:05,400
ultimately they can't you can't do that

803
00:29:09,409 --> 00:29:07,140
so if if you're actually inside a craft

804
00:29:10,130 --> 00:29:09,419
that can do that

805
00:29:11,570 --> 00:29:10,140
um

806
00:29:13,669 --> 00:29:11,580
my guess is you would feel nothing

807
00:29:15,830 --> 00:29:13,679
inside that if

808
00:29:18,350 --> 00:29:15,840
because it seems to act with no inertia

809
00:29:20,149 --> 00:29:18,360
it's it's moving as if it's a light like

810
00:29:21,950 --> 00:29:20,159
a hologram

811
00:29:25,490 --> 00:29:21,960
um you know something like that yeah

812
00:29:28,010 --> 00:29:25,500
going from still to an incredible speed

813
00:29:30,289 --> 00:29:28,020
it was actually no momentum building up

814
00:29:32,210 --> 00:29:30,299
to it it's just instant at that speed

815
00:29:33,710 --> 00:29:32,220
which I saw what do you think about

816
00:29:35,990 --> 00:29:33,720
anything that's like a Tic Tac going

817
00:29:38,269 --> 00:29:36,000
from 80 000 feet to sea level in less

818
00:29:39,950 --> 00:29:38,279
than a second like you could liquefy any

819
00:29:42,350 --> 00:29:39,960
inhabitant it's got to be making some

820
00:29:44,870 --> 00:29:42,360
kind of a bubble something to protect it

821
00:29:46,850 --> 00:29:44,880
from the laws of physics because I'm a

822
00:29:48,710 --> 00:29:46,860
big formula one fan and the limitation

823
00:29:50,570 --> 00:29:48,720
in Formula One is not the car it's the

824
00:29:52,130 --> 00:29:50,580
man in the car they could make the cars

825
00:29:53,810 --> 00:29:52,140
even faster but there's no human on the

826
00:29:56,029 --> 00:29:53,820
planet that can react fast enough and

827
00:29:58,789 --> 00:29:56,039
not kill himself it's not the Machinery

828
00:30:00,350 --> 00:29:58,799
it's us so that's why it makes it that

829
00:30:02,990 --> 00:30:00,360
much more interesting when you see

830
00:30:05,210 --> 00:30:03,000
things making 90 degree turns taking off

831
00:30:07,490 --> 00:30:05,220
with thousands of miles an hour I don't

832
00:30:09,590 --> 00:30:07,500
think any biology without some kind of a

833
00:30:11,450 --> 00:30:09,600
shield could really sustain that and I'm

834
00:30:13,610 --> 00:30:11,460
not an engineer but it just kind of

835
00:30:15,110 --> 00:30:13,620
makes common sense right

836
00:30:17,090 --> 00:30:15,120
Chris I want to ask you I don't even

837
00:30:19,490 --> 00:30:17,100
know how you do that right because now

838
00:30:21,350 --> 00:30:19,500
you have to accelerate

839
00:30:24,649 --> 00:30:21,360
you know to get the way we understand

840
00:30:26,810 --> 00:30:24,659
how inertia works is you have to

841
00:30:29,330 --> 00:30:26,820
um you can't just go from zero to 100

842
00:30:31,730 --> 00:30:29,340
miles per hour immediately you know

843
00:30:34,669 --> 00:30:31,740
nothing can yeah it has to go through

844
00:30:37,070 --> 00:30:34,679
that it's a linear process

845
00:30:38,810 --> 00:30:37,080
so I don't know how they even do that it

846
00:30:40,370 --> 00:30:38,820
doesn't make sense that's why it defies

847
00:30:42,230 --> 00:30:40,380
the laws of physics you know one of the

848
00:30:44,870 --> 00:30:42,240
five observables

849
00:30:47,630 --> 00:30:44,880
so yeah yeah and a person like yourself

850
00:30:50,210 --> 00:30:47,640
that is a you know like you guys are the

851
00:30:52,370 --> 00:30:50,220
most credible witnesses that we have in

852
00:30:54,110 --> 00:30:52,380
the sky you are the most trained person

853
00:30:56,389 --> 00:30:54,120
like how many millions of dollars do

854
00:30:58,130 --> 00:30:56,399
they spend training you guys to be

855
00:30:59,930 --> 00:30:58,140
observant and and to know your stuff

856
00:31:01,850 --> 00:30:59,940
when you're up there so when we hear

857
00:31:04,310 --> 00:31:01,860
reports from other Fighter Pods which

858
00:31:06,110 --> 00:31:04,320
have some have been on your show and you

859
00:31:07,130 --> 00:31:06,120
talk to all the time probably behind the

860
00:31:09,470 --> 00:31:07,140
scenes

861
00:31:10,789 --> 00:31:09,480
it's most of every pilot has seen

862
00:31:12,590 --> 00:31:10,799
something at some point during their

863
00:31:15,769 --> 00:31:12,600
career that they cannot explain that

864
00:31:18,470 --> 00:31:15,779
they have no way of identifying as a

865
00:31:20,510 --> 00:31:18,480
professional or an entity uh we often

866
00:31:22,669 --> 00:31:20,520
joke about how like if somebody likes to

867
00:31:24,830 --> 00:31:22,679
say uh Louis here who just turned 40

868
00:31:27,230 --> 00:31:24,840
years old he's got 40 years of

869
00:31:28,909 --> 00:31:27,240
experience being a human right so he

870
00:31:30,889 --> 00:31:28,919
knows what's possible for humans what's

871
00:31:33,350 --> 00:31:30,899
not possible for humans we discredited

872
00:31:35,029 --> 00:31:33,360
that as people and observers now if

873
00:31:37,789 --> 00:31:35,039
they're just the general population well

874
00:31:39,710 --> 00:31:37,799
you must be you know seeing things or it

875
00:31:41,389 --> 00:31:39,720
must be government program but in your

876
00:31:43,970 --> 00:31:41,399
case you're the most trained observers

877
00:31:45,230 --> 00:31:43,980
uh and we have Pilots after Pilots

878
00:31:47,210 --> 00:31:45,240
coming out saying yeah something's not

879
00:31:49,730 --> 00:31:47,220
right we weren't able to identify or it

880
00:31:53,389 --> 00:31:49,740
did something to our Machinery when you

881
00:31:55,310 --> 00:31:53,399
hear that as an investigator now like

882
00:31:56,810 --> 00:31:55,320
what are your thoughts like you think

883
00:31:58,669 --> 00:31:56,820
there's definitely something to the

884
00:32:00,169 --> 00:31:58,679
military aspects with these entities

885
00:32:02,810 --> 00:32:00,179
because they seem to be always

886
00:32:05,450 --> 00:32:02,820
interacting with the military in some

887
00:32:09,889 --> 00:32:07,669
well I guess um I don't think most

888
00:32:12,169 --> 00:32:09,899
Pilots see see these things

889
00:32:13,430 --> 00:32:12,179
um or if they do then they're not then

890
00:32:14,510 --> 00:32:13,440
they're really not talking about it at

891
00:32:17,630 --> 00:32:14,520
all they're just keeping it to

892
00:32:19,610 --> 00:32:17,640
themselves I haven't seen it a UAP

893
00:32:21,649 --> 00:32:19,620
um I don't remember seeing anything I

894
00:32:23,149 --> 00:32:21,659
that I couldn't identify or felt the

895
00:32:25,250 --> 00:32:23,159
need to go and identify you know maybe

896
00:32:27,350 --> 00:32:25,260
there was something there I didn't

897
00:32:29,630 --> 00:32:27,360
but I don't remember a case I don't

898
00:32:31,310 --> 00:32:29,640
remember anyone coming and telling me

899
00:32:33,710 --> 00:32:31,320
they saw UAP

900
00:32:36,110 --> 00:32:33,720
that being said you know I have heard a

901
00:32:39,230 --> 00:32:36,120
couple cases and you know there's one

902
00:32:40,789 --> 00:32:39,240
other YouTuber a Max afterburner uh he

903
00:32:42,649 --> 00:32:40,799
he does a

904
00:32:44,450 --> 00:32:42,659
he doesn't do uaps at all and I've

905
00:32:45,769 --> 00:32:44,460
actually wrote him a few times to ask

906
00:32:48,049 --> 00:32:45,779
him if he would talk about you I don't

907
00:32:49,190 --> 00:32:48,059
think he wants to talk about UFOs or I

908
00:32:51,470 --> 00:32:49,200
think he wants to talk about me or maybe

909
00:32:53,330 --> 00:32:51,480
he just didn't see my emails right but

910
00:32:55,010 --> 00:32:53,340
he talked about UAP on there well it was

911
00:32:57,289 --> 00:32:55,020
a reverse explosion

912
00:32:58,850 --> 00:32:57,299
it was like you saw a fireball like come

913
00:33:01,310 --> 00:32:58,860
back together and then disappear

914
00:33:02,870 --> 00:33:01,320
something like that like a fireball

915
00:33:05,690 --> 00:33:02,880
implosion when he was on a low level

916
00:33:08,210 --> 00:33:05,700
just split second type thing

917
00:33:10,610 --> 00:33:08,220
so I think it does happen

918
00:33:11,990 --> 00:33:10,620
I think maybe the military

919
00:33:14,690 --> 00:33:12,000
um

920
00:33:16,009 --> 00:33:14,700
they maybe feel like they're Bound by

921
00:33:18,590 --> 00:33:16,019
some sort of

922
00:33:20,750 --> 00:33:18,600
maybe honor to talk

923
00:33:23,570 --> 00:33:20,760
you know I think uh you know honor and

924
00:33:26,330 --> 00:33:23,580
duties really be beat into us in the

925
00:33:29,269 --> 00:33:26,340
military I think and I still I think

926
00:33:31,490 --> 00:33:29,279
Integrity is super important critical

927
00:33:33,110 --> 00:33:31,500
it's you know it's the first uh core

928
00:33:36,289 --> 00:33:33,120
value of the Air Force

929
00:33:38,450 --> 00:33:36,299
and so maybe that's part of it is that

930
00:33:41,330 --> 00:33:38,460
they just feel like they

931
00:33:43,310 --> 00:33:41,340
they should and and the main reason I

932
00:33:45,710 --> 00:33:43,320
think you wouldn't is some sort of fear

933
00:33:48,169 --> 00:33:45,720
it's going to be fear of whatever fear

934
00:33:49,370 --> 00:33:48,179
of radical ridicule fear of loss of your

935
00:33:51,230 --> 00:33:49,380
career

936
00:33:52,970 --> 00:33:51,240
fear of

937
00:33:55,310 --> 00:33:52,980
you know your friends and family looking

938
00:33:57,289 --> 00:33:55,320
at you weird or something right

939
00:34:00,230 --> 00:33:57,299
so I think it's

940
00:34:03,230 --> 00:34:00,240
maybe they're used to

941
00:34:04,909 --> 00:34:03,240
at least for myself right for me the in

942
00:34:06,350 --> 00:34:04,919
the end at the end of the day I was able

943
00:34:07,370 --> 00:34:06,360
to publish which I think is probably one

944
00:34:09,889 --> 00:34:07,380
of the hardest things you can do is

945
00:34:11,750 --> 00:34:09,899
really publish online any sort of

946
00:34:13,490 --> 00:34:11,760
personal books or stories you know I get

947
00:34:15,230 --> 00:34:13,500
a lot of complaints from people that

948
00:34:17,210 --> 00:34:15,240
they're all Anonymous you know these

949
00:34:19,389 --> 00:34:17,220
people aren't really

950
00:34:22,129 --> 00:34:19,399
um sharing any sort of personal details

951
00:34:23,450 --> 00:34:22,139
and when you go to that length you

952
00:34:24,829 --> 00:34:23,460
publish a non-fiction book or you

953
00:34:26,089 --> 00:34:24,839
publish a fiction book even with your

954
00:34:28,609 --> 00:34:26,099
real name

955
00:34:30,710 --> 00:34:28,619
I think you have to overcome a very big

956
00:34:32,510 --> 00:34:30,720
step of fear and you have to pass that

957
00:34:34,070 --> 00:34:32,520
you know I mean you know I wasn't a

958
00:34:35,629 --> 00:34:34,080
drama person growing up you know I could

959
00:34:38,450 --> 00:34:35,639
see people acting and I was like I would

960
00:34:40,669 --> 00:34:38,460
never do that actually shy you know so

961
00:34:42,169 --> 00:34:40,679
it's not so easy I think overcoming fear

962
00:34:45,169 --> 00:34:42,179
is maybe just

963
00:34:47,690 --> 00:34:45,179
uh and required to feel some sort of

964
00:34:51,829 --> 00:34:47,700
Duty or uh

965
00:34:54,889 --> 00:34:51,839
in uh honor and integrity to

966
00:34:55,970 --> 00:34:54,899
we'll pass that again I guess and in

967
00:34:57,950 --> 00:34:55,980
terms of fear I want to get your

968
00:35:00,170 --> 00:34:57,960
opinions on the threat narrative and we

969
00:35:02,270 --> 00:35:00,180
ask a lot of people this we get varying

970
00:35:04,210 --> 00:35:02,280
answers so what are your thoughts on

971
00:35:08,150 --> 00:35:04,220
this phenomenon and the Threat Level

972
00:35:11,750 --> 00:35:08,990
yeah

973
00:35:16,010 --> 00:35:13,790
I mean I guess how do you define the

974
00:35:18,650 --> 00:35:16,020
word threat you know well some people

975
00:35:20,030 --> 00:35:18,660
have said a threat can be

976
00:35:21,650 --> 00:35:20,040
um the fact that it's in our skies and

977
00:35:24,230 --> 00:35:21,660
we don't know or it can be a direct

978
00:35:26,210 --> 00:35:24,240
threat from our adversaries or you know

979
00:35:29,089 --> 00:35:26,220
the fact that we have data and we can't

980
00:35:31,970 --> 00:35:29,099
release it is a threat to revealing our

981
00:35:33,890 --> 00:35:31,980
sensors and how you know maybe uh how

982
00:35:35,870 --> 00:35:33,900
good they actually are so the threat is

983
00:35:37,550 --> 00:35:35,880
different for everybody but I'm asking

984
00:35:39,349 --> 00:35:37,560
more in terms of like a malevolent thing

985
00:35:42,650 --> 00:35:39,359
like there's something out there it's

986
00:35:46,790 --> 00:35:42,660
not good and uh versus the opinion of

987
00:35:52,010 --> 00:35:48,950
yeah I guess um

988
00:35:55,670 --> 00:35:52,020
so a threat really it comes from a lack

989
00:35:59,150 --> 00:35:55,680
of knowledge I think you know um

990
00:36:01,130 --> 00:35:59,160
is really you don't know if someone else

991
00:36:03,589 --> 00:36:01,140
is going to attack right we don't know

992
00:36:06,770 --> 00:36:03,599
if China is going to attack the us we

993
00:36:09,770 --> 00:36:06,780
suspect it right even though I'm more

994
00:36:11,750 --> 00:36:09,780
worried about the U.S attacking

995
00:36:14,329 --> 00:36:11,760
um so it's really there's a lack of

996
00:36:16,670 --> 00:36:14,339
information right if we know that our

997
00:36:18,650 --> 00:36:16,680
friends are friendly with us and our

998
00:36:19,970 --> 00:36:18,660
allies would never attack us even though

999
00:36:21,470 --> 00:36:19,980
they have more than the capabilities

1000
00:36:22,730 --> 00:36:21,480
right they have more capabilities than

1001
00:36:24,530 --> 00:36:22,740
our adversaries

1002
00:36:26,329 --> 00:36:24,540
but we have knowledge we have

1003
00:36:28,910 --> 00:36:26,339
information that they are not going to

1004
00:36:30,829 --> 00:36:28,920
you know to the best of our ability

1005
00:36:32,450 --> 00:36:30,839
and you notice when that gets way out of

1006
00:36:34,970 --> 00:36:32,460
whack right when one

1007
00:36:37,970 --> 00:36:34,980
Nation gets way more powerful than the

1008
00:36:41,089 --> 00:36:37,980
other nations than it it also upsets the

1009
00:36:43,010 --> 00:36:41,099
balance because even with the knowledge

1010
00:36:45,530 --> 00:36:43,020
now they have a knowledge

1011
00:36:48,589 --> 00:36:45,540
that they cannot beat the enemy right

1012
00:36:51,230 --> 00:36:48,599
they have they they then know that if

1013
00:36:53,210 --> 00:36:51,240
they are unmatched then there is

1014
00:36:54,890 --> 00:36:53,220
literally nothing they can do

1015
00:36:57,650 --> 00:36:54,900
in that case

1016
00:36:59,510 --> 00:36:57,660
so I guess it would be what are your two

1017
00:37:01,970 --> 00:36:59,520
what are the two cases

1018
00:37:04,069 --> 00:37:01,980
you know if if

1019
00:37:06,050 --> 00:37:04,079
for me if you look at all the abduction

1020
00:37:09,109 --> 00:37:06,060
cases and everything going back 80 years

1021
00:37:11,870 --> 00:37:09,119
and if it if it is true and there is

1022
00:37:13,310 --> 00:37:11,880
Alien Force aliens here

1023
00:37:14,390 --> 00:37:13,320
and the fact we don't know is very

1024
00:37:17,390 --> 00:37:14,400
suspicious

1025
00:37:19,490 --> 00:37:17,400
and so it's either they're hiding it for

1026
00:37:20,990 --> 00:37:19,500
our benefit or they're hiding it for

1027
00:37:24,290 --> 00:37:21,000
their benefit

1028
00:37:26,210 --> 00:37:24,300
right and so I think it comes down to

1029
00:37:28,790 --> 00:37:26,220
that question

1030
00:37:30,109 --> 00:37:28,800
uh you know if they're here because you

1031
00:37:32,270 --> 00:37:30,119
have to look at your threat tree right

1032
00:37:34,609 --> 00:37:32,280
okay if they're not here no threat okay

1033
00:37:36,950 --> 00:37:34,619
no worries all right if they are here so

1034
00:37:38,569 --> 00:37:36,960
we need to figure that out first then

1035
00:37:40,490 --> 00:37:38,579
the next thing is

1036
00:37:42,770 --> 00:37:40,500
you know are they here to help us why

1037
00:37:47,030 --> 00:37:42,780
haven't we heard about them the whole

1038
00:37:48,589 --> 00:37:47,040
time right because ultimately it you

1039
00:37:51,829 --> 00:37:48,599
know we can scrounge around all we want

1040
00:37:53,690 --> 00:37:51,839
and get these Witnesses but if it is

1041
00:37:56,030 --> 00:37:53,700
going on the fact that we don't know is

1042
00:37:56,870 --> 00:37:56,040
is a really bad indicator that it is a

1043
00:37:59,030 --> 00:37:56,880
threat

1044
00:38:01,010 --> 00:37:59,040
right and and at any rate we would have

1045
00:38:02,750 --> 00:38:01,020
to figure out the first question in

1046
00:38:04,609 --> 00:38:02,760
order to go to the second and say are

1047
00:38:07,250 --> 00:38:04,619
they here to help us

1048
00:38:09,230 --> 00:38:07,260
um or not and and what I hear and I

1049
00:38:11,870 --> 00:38:09,240
guess I'm I I'm in undecided Camp

1050
00:38:14,870 --> 00:38:11,880
because we lack the information

1051
00:38:16,910 --> 00:38:14,880
so how can you say it's not a threat

1052
00:38:18,370 --> 00:38:16,920
if we don't know those key pieces of

1053
00:38:20,810 --> 00:38:18,380
information

1054
00:38:23,810 --> 00:38:20,820
but then how can you say that they are a

1055
00:38:27,410 --> 00:38:23,820
threat if you can't prove any

1056
00:38:29,930 --> 00:38:27,420
I guess uh actual harm

1057
00:38:32,450 --> 00:38:29,940
yeah and there's two threats I mean it's

1058
00:38:35,750 --> 00:38:32,460
the threat like their threat in an R

1059
00:38:37,790 --> 00:38:35,760
threat meaning how we react to their

1060
00:38:40,370 --> 00:38:37,800
existence or if we possess their

1061
00:38:43,069 --> 00:38:40,380
technology what's the purpose of our

1062
00:38:45,349 --> 00:38:43,079
reverse engineering is it to propel

1063
00:38:47,450 --> 00:38:45,359
Humanity into a better age or is it used

1064
00:38:49,430 --> 00:38:47,460
for Warfare again like we always do

1065
00:38:52,910 --> 00:38:49,440
every time we discover anything like

1066
00:38:55,130 --> 00:38:52,920
gunpowder or you know microwaves or

1067
00:38:57,589 --> 00:38:55,140
explore it's like how can I use this to

1068
00:39:00,230 --> 00:38:57,599
kill another person that's how we create

1069
00:39:03,290 --> 00:39:00,240
our technology that's what a more aware

1070
00:39:06,890 --> 00:39:03,300
like aware of these days I guess is that

1071
00:39:07,849 --> 00:39:06,900
in our hands this technology is a threat

1072
00:39:10,370 --> 00:39:07,859
to us

1073
00:39:11,510 --> 00:39:10,380
so even if they don't mean it uh just

1074
00:39:13,190 --> 00:39:11,520
the fact that we would have some of

1075
00:39:14,870 --> 00:39:13,200
their technology it's a Potential Threat

1076
00:39:17,510 --> 00:39:14,880
for Humanity just look at what we did

1077
00:39:19,310 --> 00:39:17,520
with nukes like how many nukes do we

1078
00:39:21,290 --> 00:39:19,320
have now in the world like ten thousand

1079
00:39:25,250 --> 00:39:21,300
nukes or like this ridiculous sum of

1080
00:39:26,510 --> 00:39:25,260
amount of world destroying rockets and

1081
00:39:27,710 --> 00:39:26,520
they're just waiting there just sitting

1082
00:39:29,329 --> 00:39:27,720
there it'll be the same thing with their

1083
00:39:32,510 --> 00:39:29,339
technology that's what I'm worried about

1084
00:39:34,430 --> 00:39:32,520
is what we gonna do with it uh because

1085
00:39:35,930 --> 00:39:34,440
obviously they can handle it by the way

1086
00:39:38,230 --> 00:39:35,940
that they're maneuvering in our skies

1087
00:39:40,790 --> 00:39:38,240
and water you know uh

1088
00:39:42,410 --> 00:39:40,800
they're able to handle this we are not

1089
00:39:44,329 --> 00:39:42,420
capable of it I think we're not probably

1090
00:39:46,670 --> 00:39:44,339
mature enough for that technology that's

1091
00:39:48,170 --> 00:39:46,680
my biggest issue on this whole reverse

1092
00:39:49,849 --> 00:39:48,180
engineering thing because it's great if

1093
00:39:52,490 --> 00:39:49,859
we can create things that benefit

1094
00:39:56,150 --> 00:39:52,500
Humanity but that hasn't been our track

1095
00:39:57,890 --> 00:39:56,160
record as a species at all you know that

1096
00:39:59,870 --> 00:39:57,900
worries me I think that's an aspect of

1097
00:40:03,170 --> 00:39:59,880
ufology we never talk about is what do

1098
00:40:04,849 --> 00:40:03,180
we do once you know the proverbial [\h__\h]

1099
00:40:06,410 --> 00:40:04,859
hits the fan and you know the truth

1100
00:40:09,589 --> 00:40:06,420
comes out there's going to be a bunch of

1101
00:40:12,890 --> 00:40:09,599
repercussions right so that's some I'm a

1102
00:40:18,050 --> 00:40:15,530
I I guess I am but I'm also hopeful

1103
00:40:19,490 --> 00:40:18,060
because I think we're in a unique time

1104
00:40:22,670 --> 00:40:19,500
in history

1105
00:40:26,329 --> 00:40:22,680
where I think we we've Technology's

1106
00:40:28,069 --> 00:40:26,339
reached a point I think we've globalized

1107
00:40:30,530 --> 00:40:28,079
essentially we've essentially globalized

1108
00:40:31,910 --> 00:40:30,540
and I think we have a large enough kind

1109
00:40:34,550 --> 00:40:31,920
of neural network

1110
00:40:37,010 --> 00:40:34,560
built with the internet now and now I

1111
00:40:38,750 --> 00:40:37,020
see I think with chat GPT and all these

1112
00:40:40,190 --> 00:40:38,760
other AI programs coming online et

1113
00:40:43,190 --> 00:40:40,200
cetera that

1114
00:40:45,050 --> 00:40:43,200
we won't actually be in a a scarcity

1115
00:40:46,790 --> 00:40:45,060
environment I don't think we'll be in a

1116
00:40:49,670 --> 00:40:46,800
resources limited environment here in

1117
00:40:51,530 --> 00:40:49,680
about five to ten years unless America

1118
00:40:54,710 --> 00:40:51,540
does something stupid right right

1119
00:40:55,730 --> 00:40:54,720
honestly like that so in 10 years I

1120
00:40:58,250 --> 00:40:55,740
think

1121
00:40:59,990 --> 00:40:58,260
people won't have a need to fight other

1122
00:41:02,270 --> 00:41:00,000
people yeah you know if you look back

1123
00:41:04,910 --> 00:41:02,280
most wars if not all of them are done

1124
00:41:06,230 --> 00:41:04,920
for economic reasons for purposes or out

1125
00:41:08,270 --> 00:41:06,240
of fear

1126
00:41:10,430 --> 00:41:08,280
that I will get my stuff taken

1127
00:41:12,050 --> 00:41:10,440
essentially you know they're going to

1128
00:41:14,990 --> 00:41:12,060
come take my guns you know that's it

1129
00:41:16,910 --> 00:41:15,000
right I'm gonna get my guns yeah I might

1130
00:41:18,530 --> 00:41:16,920
get my stuff taken even look at Nations

1131
00:41:20,829 --> 00:41:18,540
you know

1132
00:41:23,810 --> 00:41:20,839
like look at it I was we lived in Spain

1133
00:41:26,750 --> 00:41:23,820
and uh you know catalan's a huge issue

1134
00:41:29,030 --> 00:41:26,760
obviously they've had major issues um

1135
00:41:30,530 --> 00:41:29,040
but the Spanish don't like Catalan

1136
00:41:32,089 --> 00:41:30,540
necessarily okay you know I'm getting a

1137
00:41:33,890 --> 00:41:32,099
huge trouble for this

1138
00:41:36,170 --> 00:41:33,900
um but but what you realize is they want

1139
00:41:38,810 --> 00:41:36,180
to leave right everyone votes to leave

1140
00:41:40,250 --> 00:41:38,820
and that the the main country never lets

1141
00:41:42,109 --> 00:41:40,260
them leave you know look at the United

1142
00:41:44,510 --> 00:41:42,119
States that's what's the first Civil War

1143
00:41:47,030 --> 00:41:44,520
was essentially you know was fought over

1144
00:41:48,950 --> 00:41:47,040
the South wanting to leave leave the

1145
00:41:51,290 --> 00:41:48,960
union essentially you know slavery yes

1146
00:41:52,849 --> 00:41:51,300
but the vote over leaving

1147
00:41:54,170 --> 00:41:52,859
um look at the luckily there was no

1148
00:41:57,829 --> 00:41:54,180
violence for everything but look at the

1149
00:42:00,410 --> 00:41:57,839
huge of people called caused by uh the

1150
00:42:02,030 --> 00:42:00,420
UK leaving right yeah because you could

1151
00:42:03,050 --> 00:42:02,040
sign up you know when you sign up of

1152
00:42:04,730 --> 00:42:03,060
course you can leave you can leave

1153
00:42:06,650 --> 00:42:04,740
whenever you want the man they made it a

1154
00:42:10,430 --> 00:42:06,660
pain in the ass didn't they yeah it

1155
00:42:12,530 --> 00:42:10,440
happened in Canada too Jason for it you

1156
00:42:13,910 --> 00:42:12,540
know Quebec wanted to separate and we

1157
00:42:15,950 --> 00:42:13,920
didn't realize that that wouldn't work

1158
00:42:17,510 --> 00:42:15,960
but uh we had a referendum and they

1159
00:42:20,710 --> 00:42:17,520
voted it could have happened right yeah

1160
00:42:23,030 --> 00:42:20,720
well on the verge we could the

1161
00:42:24,410 --> 00:42:23,040
geopolitical system can change overnight

1162
00:42:26,630 --> 00:42:24,420
you know it's crazy

1163
00:42:28,430 --> 00:42:26,640
I think I'd rate this how mature is your

1164
00:42:30,349 --> 00:42:28,440
country right if if you guys if that

1165
00:42:32,089 --> 00:42:30,359
voted and that happened and there was no

1166
00:42:34,790 --> 00:42:32,099
really huge war and everything I'd be

1167
00:42:36,950 --> 00:42:34,800
like man yeah they're better than us you

1168
00:42:38,569 --> 00:42:36,960
know like they've done it they figured

1169
00:42:41,450 --> 00:42:38,579
it out I think countries are a huge part

1170
00:42:43,250 --> 00:42:41,460
of the problem is uh and and

1171
00:42:44,750 --> 00:42:43,260
just like every other organism on this

1172
00:42:46,490 --> 00:42:44,760
planet I think they're gonna

1173
00:42:48,829 --> 00:42:46,500
they're gonna do what all organisms do

1174
00:42:50,270 --> 00:42:48,839
and so they they don't really care about

1175
00:42:53,390 --> 00:42:50,280
us

1176
00:42:54,829 --> 00:42:53,400
yeah I wanted to go down the Wooh hole

1177
00:42:57,410 --> 00:42:54,839
for one second here and just get your

1178
00:42:59,990 --> 00:42:57,420
thoughts on things like Cryptids and

1179
00:43:01,309 --> 00:43:00,000
Poltergeist and hitchhiker effects do

1180
00:43:02,630 --> 00:43:01,319
you have any opinion one way or the

1181
00:43:04,250 --> 00:43:02,640
other or you know are you familiar with

1182
00:43:05,950 --> 00:43:04,260
these type of things I don't know what a

1183
00:43:09,790 --> 00:43:05,960
crypt it is

1184
00:43:13,569 --> 00:43:09,800
Bigfoot Skinwalker Mothman anything

1185
00:43:17,030 --> 00:43:13,579
bipedal creatures

1186
00:43:19,910 --> 00:43:17,040
yeah just like uh Legends and tales of

1187
00:43:21,770 --> 00:43:19,920
creatures that have you know half a foot

1188
00:43:24,109 --> 00:43:21,780
in this realm and half a foot in the

1189
00:43:25,430 --> 00:43:24,119
other shape shifters you know kind of

1190
00:43:27,290 --> 00:43:25,440
some of the things people have theorized

1191
00:43:30,050 --> 00:43:27,300
happening in Skinwalker Ranch things

1192
00:43:31,370 --> 00:43:30,060
change in form and Bigfoot and messing

1193
00:43:33,410 --> 00:43:31,380
with us

1194
00:43:36,530 --> 00:43:33,420
I I mean I haven't looked into it really

1195
00:43:38,630 --> 00:43:36,540
much more than you know a few weeks

1196
00:43:41,510 --> 00:43:38,640
watching videos over over my two and a

1197
00:43:43,190 --> 00:43:41,520
half years probably you know I don't um

1198
00:43:45,050 --> 00:43:43,200
it was almost like too far in the room

1199
00:43:46,550 --> 00:43:45,060
like there's like a woo ladder I think

1200
00:43:48,230 --> 00:43:46,560
you know and I think Bigfoot's like

1201
00:43:50,410 --> 00:43:48,240
towards the end just because it has such

1202
00:43:53,630 --> 00:43:50,420
a name you know watch all the movies

1203
00:43:55,670 --> 00:43:53,640
like that so stigmatized against Bigfoot

1204
00:43:57,170 --> 00:43:55,680
that it's like am I really investigating

1205
00:43:58,970 --> 00:43:57,180
Bigfoot you know that you have to step

1206
00:44:00,470 --> 00:43:58,980
that line and I'm I'm sure I will

1207
00:44:03,550 --> 00:44:00,480
because it makes sense that you would

1208
00:44:06,829 --> 00:44:03,560
have some sort of uh interrelated

1209
00:44:08,930 --> 00:44:06,839
portals timelines at least there's an

1210
00:44:11,089 --> 00:44:08,940
argument to be made that you could have

1211
00:44:12,770 --> 00:44:11,099
some sort of primates or maybe that's an

1212
00:44:15,230 --> 00:44:12,780
alien you know maybe aliens look like

1213
00:44:16,790 --> 00:44:15,240
Bigfoot and nothing it's like their dog

1214
00:44:18,890 --> 00:44:16,800
they just let out every once in a while

1215
00:44:21,050 --> 00:44:18,900
to go to the bathroom we just happened

1216
00:44:22,910 --> 00:44:21,060
to spot it right who knows well we were

1217
00:44:24,470 --> 00:44:22,920
polarized Jay I've always said I think

1218
00:44:26,930 --> 00:44:24,480
there's a chance at Bigfoot and you were

1219
00:44:28,069 --> 00:44:26,940
like no and early on in the show we were

1220
00:44:30,050 --> 00:44:28,079
going to talk about and you're like no

1221
00:44:31,130 --> 00:44:30,060
Bigfoot then we chat with George Knapp

1222
00:44:32,270 --> 00:44:31,140
I'm like hey George what do you think

1223
00:44:34,370 --> 00:44:32,280
about Bigfoot he's like oh yeah there's

1224
00:44:35,750 --> 00:44:34,380
something there Jason's like I guess we

1225
00:44:37,790 --> 00:44:35,760
got to talk about Bigfoot now because

1226
00:44:40,130 --> 00:44:37,800
George Knapp said so you know so yeah

1227
00:44:42,170 --> 00:44:40,140
it's good to have that paradigm shift

1228
00:44:44,569 --> 00:44:42,180
and you start here thinking oh we're

1229
00:44:46,190 --> 00:44:44,579
nuts and bolts UFO guys we're gonna

1230
00:44:47,390 --> 00:44:46,200
figure this thing out no time and next

1231
00:44:49,670 --> 00:44:47,400
thing you know you're delving into

1232
00:44:51,589 --> 00:44:49,680
Consciousness and Cryptids and you know

1233
00:44:53,809 --> 00:44:51,599
remote viewing and just everything and

1234
00:44:56,030 --> 00:44:53,819
it's like wow the deeper you go the more

1235
00:44:58,430 --> 00:44:56,040
you find there is to go and there is no

1236
00:45:00,410 --> 00:44:58,440
floor of this thing

1237
00:45:02,329 --> 00:45:00,420
so don't be scared of the Bigfoot that's

1238
00:45:04,370 --> 00:45:02,339
all I'm saying don't be scared we're not

1239
00:45:07,069 --> 00:45:04,380
a Bigfoot show but I don't think Bigfoot

1240
00:45:08,930 --> 00:45:07,079
will hurt you just just go with yeah so

1241
00:45:10,250 --> 00:45:08,940
that I just haven't researched it

1242
00:45:12,829 --> 00:45:10,260
actually

1243
00:45:14,990 --> 00:45:12,839
um I talked to DJ and he's like to all

1244
00:45:16,309 --> 00:45:15,000
you know given all these case examples

1245
00:45:18,410 --> 00:45:16,319
Etc so

1246
00:45:20,690 --> 00:45:18,420
yeah I just haven't researched it I'm

1247
00:45:25,250 --> 00:45:20,700
hugely interested in the remote viewing

1248
00:45:26,450 --> 00:45:25,260
aspect and the meditation links

1249
00:45:30,230 --> 00:45:26,460
um but the

1250
00:45:33,770 --> 00:45:30,240
the stuff in um Mount Wilson Ranch yeah

1251
00:45:37,430 --> 00:45:33,780
with all yeah the Monroe Institute you

1252
00:45:40,790 --> 00:45:37,440
know spoon bending yeah and then and

1253
00:45:42,470 --> 00:45:40,800
then related to life after death so ndes

1254
00:45:44,329 --> 00:45:42,480
I don't know I gotta like this nde

1255
00:45:46,490 --> 00:45:44,339
kicker did that just come onto YouTube

1256
00:45:48,349 --> 00:45:46,500
or has it been there for years you know

1257
00:45:49,569 --> 00:45:48,359
no I think Leslie Kane has been talking

1258
00:45:52,010 --> 00:45:49,579
about it for a while you know

1259
00:45:53,390 --> 00:45:52,020
experiences and things like that but but

1260
00:45:55,309 --> 00:45:53,400
so what you were saying about remote

1261
00:45:57,710 --> 00:45:55,319
viewing though I chatted with somebody I

1262
00:46:00,349 --> 00:45:57,720
can't mention his name used to work for

1263
00:46:02,150 --> 00:46:00,359
the program and he's talking about like

1264
00:46:04,730 --> 00:46:02,160
remote viewing the moon their stuff

1265
00:46:06,550 --> 00:46:04,740
there underground bases you know when

1266
00:46:09,290 --> 00:46:06,560
you do these astral projections

1267
00:46:11,569 --> 00:46:09,300
sometimes the entities you're looking at

1268
00:46:13,910 --> 00:46:11,579
become aware that you're there and just

1269
00:46:16,130 --> 00:46:13,920
like blew my mind you know it started as

1270
00:46:17,690 --> 00:46:16,140
just a casual question next thing you

1271
00:46:19,609 --> 00:46:17,700
know we're four hours into it and I'm

1272
00:46:21,349 --> 00:46:19,619
just like this is unbelievable like I

1273
00:46:23,870 --> 00:46:21,359
don't know how you would prove any of it

1274
00:46:26,030 --> 00:46:23,880
but it seems like there's a lot there's

1275
00:46:28,130 --> 00:46:26,040
a lot there I think we have more of a

1276
00:46:30,050 --> 00:46:28,140
weapon than we think and we can use it

1277
00:46:32,510 --> 00:46:30,060
in any way that we like for good or bad

1278
00:46:34,250 --> 00:46:32,520
and yeah to your point of near-death

1279
00:46:36,230 --> 00:46:34,260
experiences and Consciousness and all

1280
00:46:38,210 --> 00:46:36,240
that that's another polarizing thing

1281
00:46:39,650 --> 00:46:38,220
people are like no keep it UFOs don't

1282
00:46:42,349 --> 00:46:39,660
talk about Consciousness and all that

1283
00:46:43,970 --> 00:46:42,359
yeah you can't anymore it is too closely

1284
00:46:46,069 --> 00:46:43,980
linked too many people telling us

1285
00:46:49,130 --> 00:46:46,079
there's something there we don't know

1286
00:46:52,190 --> 00:46:49,140
but again go outside go to that that

1287
00:46:54,290 --> 00:46:52,200
Fringe take it all in and kind of make

1288
00:46:56,089 --> 00:46:54,300
your own make your own observation right

1289
00:46:58,430 --> 00:46:56,099
yeah and I was going to ask you Chris

1290
00:47:00,349 --> 00:46:58,440
like with with what Louis just mentioned

1291
00:47:02,770 --> 00:47:00,359
there what have you found since you

1292
00:47:04,970 --> 00:47:02,780
started this uh you know YouTube channel

1293
00:47:08,329 --> 00:47:04,980
investigating like what have you found

1294
00:47:10,430 --> 00:47:08,339
has changed for you in the last few

1295
00:47:13,130 --> 00:47:10,440
years like have you had any opinions

1296
00:47:14,750 --> 00:47:13,140
change on any subjects or topics or were

1297
00:47:18,290 --> 00:47:14,760
you introduced to something that you

1298
00:47:22,609 --> 00:47:20,030
um I think probably yeah what we were

1299
00:47:25,010 --> 00:47:22,619
just talking about is going to remote

1300
00:47:26,690 --> 00:47:25,020
viewing angle right you know like you

1301
00:47:29,390 --> 00:47:26,700
guys said you start as nuts and bolts

1302
00:47:32,270 --> 00:47:29,400
you know scientists uh at least in

1303
00:47:34,670 --> 00:47:32,280
college Etc and and then your what you

1304
00:47:36,650 --> 00:47:34,680
find is where is the where is the

1305
00:47:38,569 --> 00:47:36,660
evidence leading you

1306
00:47:40,730 --> 00:47:38,579
and it and then you're like well is it

1307
00:47:42,970 --> 00:47:40,740
my own bias or is it the and I'm like

1308
00:47:45,410 --> 00:47:42,980
well I don't know I keep ending up back

1309
00:47:47,630 --> 00:47:45,420
you know looking into this Consciousness

1310
00:47:49,730 --> 00:47:47,640
aspect and I think that's where Abby

1311
00:47:51,470 --> 00:47:49,740
Lowe will miss a lot if he's not at

1312
00:47:53,210 --> 00:47:51,480
least maybe if he's not saying it

1313
00:47:55,849 --> 00:47:53,220
publicly if he doesn't consider it

1314
00:47:58,130 --> 00:47:55,859
privately is that what about all these

1315
00:48:00,170 --> 00:47:58,140
these accounts so if it

1316
00:48:02,450 --> 00:48:00,180
you know what I guess what I'm thinking

1317
00:48:04,490 --> 00:48:02,460
is that there's no real

1318
00:48:05,750 --> 00:48:04,500
I don't firmly understand our current

1319
00:48:08,930 --> 00:48:05,760
reality

1320
00:48:11,750 --> 00:48:08,940
and if you look at all these like the

1321
00:48:13,849 --> 00:48:11,760
ndes right if you look at it it would

1322
00:48:15,170 --> 00:48:13,859
they're all very surprised and

1323
00:48:16,790 --> 00:48:15,180
shockingly similar I don't know if

1324
00:48:19,309 --> 00:48:16,800
they're edited that way or something but

1325
00:48:21,770 --> 00:48:19,319
it really leans towards what all of our

1326
00:48:23,809 --> 00:48:21,780
religions have kind of been

1327
00:48:25,970 --> 00:48:23,819
hell I don't know held captive to the

1328
00:48:30,710 --> 00:48:25,980
humans maybe something you know is is

1329
00:48:32,809 --> 00:48:30,720
there some Beyond life uh reality and

1330
00:48:34,370 --> 00:48:32,819
this is like a made-up sort of metaverse

1331
00:48:36,770 --> 00:48:34,380
you know they say in the MDES this is

1332
00:48:38,089 --> 00:48:36,780
like a play or some sort of uh some sort

1333
00:48:40,309 --> 00:48:38,099
of metaverse

1334
00:48:41,990 --> 00:48:40,319
well I mean thinking about that it does

1335
00:48:43,430 --> 00:48:42,000
make more sense to me because I just

1336
00:48:46,370 --> 00:48:43,440
can't understand you know if you look

1337
00:48:47,930 --> 00:48:46,380
into time and how it works and the hard

1338
00:48:50,210 --> 00:48:47,940
problem of Consciousness and experience

1339
00:48:52,370 --> 00:48:50,220
and all this I just can't understand how

1340
00:48:55,190 --> 00:48:52,380
you and me right now can be having this

1341
00:48:57,950 --> 00:48:55,200
conscious experience but then at some

1342
00:48:59,450 --> 00:48:57,960
point in this in the in the future

1343
00:49:01,790 --> 00:48:59,460
um it's just not going to happen you

1344
00:49:04,670 --> 00:49:01,800
know and that's always been an issue for

1345
00:49:07,370 --> 00:49:04,680
me since I can ever remember is I bet if

1346
00:49:10,430 --> 00:49:07,380
I think therefore I am you know how the

1347
00:49:12,650 --> 00:49:10,440
hell is that going to stop I guess is um

1348
00:49:14,030 --> 00:49:12,660
and what was it before

1349
00:49:16,010 --> 00:49:14,040
right you know what was your

1350
00:49:18,170 --> 00:49:16,020
Consciousness before so is it and then

1351
00:49:19,970 --> 00:49:18,180
if you're nothing before then how can

1352
00:49:21,349 --> 00:49:19,980
you be how give me something now and

1353
00:49:22,790 --> 00:49:21,359
then and then you're going to be really

1354
00:49:24,410 --> 00:49:22,800
nothing later it just never made sense

1355
00:49:26,809 --> 00:49:24,420
to me and it still it still doesn't make

1356
00:49:29,210 --> 00:49:26,819
sense unless

1357
00:49:31,670 --> 00:49:29,220
uh these all these ndes are some sort of

1358
00:49:33,890 --> 00:49:31,680
reality yeah and growing up also

1359
00:49:35,930 --> 00:49:33,900
religion was also the same thing that

1360
00:49:37,670 --> 00:49:35,940
didn't make sense to me but everywhere

1361
00:49:39,230 --> 00:49:37,680
you look someone is religious in some

1362
00:49:41,930 --> 00:49:39,240
way you know there's some manner there's

1363
00:49:44,210 --> 00:49:41,940
something there as well and they're also

1364
00:49:47,210 --> 00:49:44,220
surprisingly shockingly similar

1365
00:49:49,910 --> 00:49:47,220
so it's almost like um they're different

1366
00:49:51,530 --> 00:49:49,920
uh languages for the same kind of

1367
00:49:52,730 --> 00:49:51,540
concept you know the religions are kind

1368
00:49:54,349 --> 00:49:52,740
of different languages for the same

1369
00:49:56,809 --> 00:49:54,359
concept of

1370
00:49:58,430 --> 00:49:56,819
whatever this existence is or following

1371
00:50:01,250 --> 00:49:58,440
existence

1372
00:50:03,470 --> 00:50:01,260
so long story short if you go that that

1373
00:50:06,349 --> 00:50:03,480
deep right then what it what it kind of

1374
00:50:09,170 --> 00:50:06,359
entails is that these there is a reality

1375
00:50:12,829 --> 00:50:09,180
outside of what we're currently

1376
00:50:14,030 --> 00:50:12,839
um experiencing and these UFOs or UAP

1377
00:50:17,569 --> 00:50:14,040
events

1378
00:50:20,630 --> 00:50:17,579
um could be coming from that reality or

1379
00:50:22,309 --> 00:50:20,640
passing through our reality that we can

1380
00:50:25,130 --> 00:50:22,319
actually actually physically experience

1381
00:50:27,829 --> 00:50:25,140
right now passing through it right and

1382
00:50:29,270 --> 00:50:27,839
they may have technology that can

1383
00:50:34,490 --> 00:50:29,280
manipulate

1384
00:50:36,410 --> 00:50:34,500
our

1385
00:50:38,809 --> 00:50:36,420
thoughts right because if this is not

1386
00:50:40,970 --> 00:50:38,819
the real reality imagine you're like in

1387
00:50:42,770 --> 00:50:40,980
The Matrix right it's literally the

1388
00:50:44,809 --> 00:50:42,780
movie The Matrix

1389
00:50:46,490 --> 00:50:44,819
um and someone comes up to like you know

1390
00:50:48,170 --> 00:50:46,500
Neo he's in there right he's jacked in

1391
00:50:49,609 --> 00:50:48,180
and someone comes up and like you know

1392
00:50:51,650 --> 00:50:49,619
pokes on his eyelid or something he's

1393
00:50:53,390 --> 00:50:51,660
gonna see like a UAP maybe while he's in

1394
00:50:55,549 --> 00:50:53,400
there you know I see a UAP

1395
00:50:56,930 --> 00:50:55,559
you know is it something crazy like that

1396
00:50:58,670 --> 00:50:56,940
you know yeah that's what I've thought

1397
00:51:00,890 --> 00:50:58,680
like if we're in The Matrix or some

1398
00:51:03,890 --> 00:51:00,900
something like that I mean

1399
00:51:05,510 --> 00:51:03,900
and again you're never going to find it

1400
00:51:07,670 --> 00:51:05,520
if you're not considering it or even

1401
00:51:09,430 --> 00:51:07,680
looking at it and I don't think you need

1402
00:51:12,349 --> 00:51:09,440
to spend tons of time on these Concepts

1403
00:51:14,390 --> 00:51:12,359
but but it should be at least somewhere

1404
00:51:17,089 --> 00:51:14,400
in the solution set like you know you

1405
00:51:18,530 --> 00:51:17,099
met you mentioned it yeah like I say is

1406
00:51:20,750 --> 00:51:18,540
it Luis is that you're always going to

1407
00:51:22,670 --> 00:51:20,760
have or most breakthroughs in science

1408
00:51:24,829 --> 00:51:22,680
have come to the outliers so if you're

1409
00:51:27,230 --> 00:51:24,839
just if you're if you're if your scope's

1410
00:51:29,809 --> 00:51:27,240
too small then you're never going to get

1411
00:51:32,809 --> 00:51:29,819
to the right solution and I and we don't

1412
00:51:34,970 --> 00:51:32,819
know the base reality so our scope

1413
00:51:36,530 --> 00:51:34,980
should not be small it should be it

1414
00:51:39,470 --> 00:51:36,540
should be very very wide you mentioned

1415
00:51:42,170 --> 00:51:39,480
like how wide have you gone in adjacent

1416
00:51:43,430 --> 00:51:42,180
it's very wide so it's but I'm trying

1417
00:51:44,870 --> 00:51:43,440
not to spend too you know I don't want

1418
00:51:46,309 --> 00:51:44,880
to waste people's time

1419
00:51:47,150 --> 00:51:46,319
um but I do want to consider all the

1420
00:51:49,370 --> 00:51:47,160
options

1421
00:51:50,690 --> 00:51:49,380
well even yeah all right I was just

1422
00:51:52,609 --> 00:51:50,700
going to say the thing I find cool about

1423
00:51:54,950 --> 00:51:52,619
this whole Consciousness is we can

1424
00:51:56,930 --> 00:51:54,960
perform very basic experiments that

1425
00:51:59,870 --> 00:51:56,940
yield a result we don't know why or how

1426
00:52:02,030 --> 00:51:59,880
but for example like Dean Raiden doing a

1427
00:52:03,829 --> 00:52:02,040
random number generator tests somehow or

1428
00:52:06,530 --> 00:52:03,839
other it works if you focus on making

1429
00:52:07,910 --> 00:52:06,540
more ones than zeros it does or if

1430
00:52:10,069 --> 00:52:07,920
people are trying to affect something

1431
00:52:11,630 --> 00:52:10,079
and uh hermetically sealed device

1432
00:52:14,089 --> 00:52:11,640
somewhere and they're trying to you know

1433
00:52:16,309 --> 00:52:14,099
prove entanglement it works or like the

1434
00:52:18,349 --> 00:52:16,319
slit test as soon as you observe it it

1435
00:52:20,210 --> 00:52:18,359
changes you know and they're they're

1436
00:52:23,030 --> 00:52:20,220
getting a glimpse of what happens from

1437
00:52:25,370 --> 00:52:23,040
potential energy into matter and that

1438
00:52:28,069 --> 00:52:25,380
sort of whole plank scale thing so we

1439
00:52:30,710 --> 00:52:28,079
can recreate this at a tiny tiny level a

1440
00:52:32,870 --> 00:52:30,720
very archaic way but it still points to

1441
00:52:35,569 --> 00:52:32,880
there's something here so I don't think

1442
00:52:37,609 --> 00:52:35,579
we need to get more chalkboards of

1443
00:52:39,589 --> 00:52:37,619
formulas we need to simplify what we

1444
00:52:42,170 --> 00:52:39,599
already know and maybe some of the most

1445
00:52:43,970 --> 00:52:42,180
basic things will yield the actual

1446
00:52:45,170 --> 00:52:43,980
answer and if hell if heavy lobe is

1447
00:52:47,089 --> 00:52:45,180
right and what he told us a few hours

1448
00:52:49,970 --> 00:52:47,099
ago he thinks he's figured out that

1449
00:52:52,130 --> 00:52:49,980
missing element of dark energy and

1450
00:52:54,010 --> 00:52:52,140
that's insane like I mean people have

1451
00:52:55,970 --> 00:52:54,020
been looking for this for decades so

1452
00:52:57,890 --> 00:52:55,980
he's going to produce something in a

1453
00:52:59,890 --> 00:52:57,900
week he says one way or the other so

1454
00:53:02,270 --> 00:52:59,900
yeah we are right there in terms of

1455
00:53:05,510 --> 00:53:02,280
potential big news for everything you

1456
00:53:07,309 --> 00:53:05,520
know and if somebody finds a big

1457
00:53:10,190 --> 00:53:07,319
um you know Discovery in science maybe

1458
00:53:12,230 --> 00:53:10,200
that will Aid this UAP search as well

1459
00:53:13,849 --> 00:53:12,240
you know it can't it can't hurt it

1460
00:53:15,109 --> 00:53:13,859
anymore and as you mentioned earlier

1461
00:53:17,690 --> 00:53:15,119
Chris we haven't really made many

1462
00:53:19,130 --> 00:53:17,700
strides in 80 years so let's step out of

1463
00:53:21,109 --> 00:53:19,140
our Circle a little bit because what do

1464
00:53:23,089 --> 00:53:21,119
we got to lose

1465
00:53:26,089 --> 00:53:23,099
yeah I think you have you hit local

1466
00:53:28,190 --> 00:53:26,099
maximums right you know technology goes

1467
00:53:30,470 --> 00:53:28,200
through local maximum jumps

1468
00:53:33,049 --> 00:53:30,480
where you just can't get there from here

1469
00:53:35,270 --> 00:53:33,059
you know um look at our the electric car

1470
00:53:38,930 --> 00:53:35,280
Revolution that's going on

1471
00:53:40,630 --> 00:53:38,940
the oems the old Legacy manufacturers

1472
00:53:42,950 --> 00:53:40,640
are having a really difficult time

1473
00:53:44,690 --> 00:53:42,960
transitioning to Electric where it's

1474
00:53:46,370 --> 00:53:44,700
usually a startup right Tesla's a

1475
00:53:48,130 --> 00:53:46,380
startup comes from outside the industry

1476
00:53:50,270 --> 00:53:48,140
if you look at all new disruptive

1477
00:53:52,010 --> 00:53:50,280
companies right it never comes from

1478
00:53:54,349 --> 00:53:52,020
inside the the

1479
00:53:57,370 --> 00:53:54,359
uh the mainstream it comes from outside

1480
00:53:59,990 --> 00:53:57,380
a disruptive technology usually because

1481
00:54:03,049 --> 00:54:00,000
you can't just iterate to get to the

1482
00:54:06,410 --> 00:54:03,059
final solution you know basically you

1483
00:54:08,870 --> 00:54:06,420
know you can start with a gas engine but

1484
00:54:10,370 --> 00:54:08,880
you can't just keep iterating a gas

1485
00:54:12,109 --> 00:54:10,380
engine and make it better and better and

1486
00:54:14,270 --> 00:54:12,119
better and end up with an electric

1487
00:54:16,309 --> 00:54:14,280
engine you know right like the

1488
00:54:18,589 --> 00:54:16,319
technology the starting assumptions the

1489
00:54:20,990 --> 00:54:18,599
whole everything how it works are just

1490
00:54:23,630 --> 00:54:21,000
completely different right so that

1491
00:54:26,630 --> 00:54:23,640
that's what it's not in your uh solution

1492
00:54:29,150 --> 00:54:26,640
set right you're ruling out uh only

1493
00:54:31,010 --> 00:54:29,160
electric engine uh because you're just

1494
00:54:32,510 --> 00:54:31,020
going to continue iterating it's like a

1495
00:54:34,010 --> 00:54:32,520
spiral you know it'll just keep

1496
00:54:35,030 --> 00:54:34,020
iterating iterating but you're never

1497
00:54:36,950 --> 00:54:35,040
going to get it you're never going to

1498
00:54:38,630 --> 00:54:36,960
get over here yeah

1499
00:54:40,190 --> 00:54:38,640
um and and so I think that's that's

1500
00:54:42,530 --> 00:54:40,200
probably the

1501
00:54:45,230 --> 00:54:42,540
the biggest issue is that we're in just

1502
00:54:47,030 --> 00:54:45,240
a local maximum where everyone's just

1503
00:54:49,490 --> 00:54:47,040
accepted that this is the this is the

1504
00:54:51,530 --> 00:54:49,500
most we're going to ever learn

1505
00:54:54,349 --> 00:54:51,540
um you know obviously there's nothing

1506
00:54:56,030 --> 00:54:54,359
there we haven't learned it so far so

1507
00:54:57,950 --> 00:54:56,040
it's not going to happen

1508
00:54:59,930 --> 00:54:57,960
and usually what happens is it comes out

1509
00:55:02,450 --> 00:54:59,940
of kind of left field

1510
00:55:04,730 --> 00:55:02,460
uh everyone's shocked by it and it's

1511
00:55:07,010 --> 00:55:04,740
simple but I've I believe it's going to

1512
00:55:09,109 --> 00:55:07,020
be the answer is going to be simple yeah

1513
00:55:11,870 --> 00:55:09,119
it's not going to be complicated as

1514
00:55:14,150 --> 00:55:11,880
complicated as we make it out to BM the

1515
00:55:16,069 --> 00:55:14,160
the I mean life and everything is

1516
00:55:18,410 --> 00:55:16,079
already just ridiculously amazingly

1517
00:55:20,510 --> 00:55:18,420
complicated

1518
00:55:22,549 --> 00:55:20,520
um but I think just Dark Energy I think

1519
00:55:25,190 --> 00:55:22,559
what we're going to find in dark matter

1520
00:55:26,930 --> 00:55:25,200
is that the the starting assumptions are

1521
00:55:29,630 --> 00:55:26,940
just so ridiculous uh they're they're

1522
00:55:31,069 --> 00:55:29,640
wrong they're just so wrong and you look

1523
00:55:33,109 --> 00:55:31,079
they're finding it out every day right

1524
00:55:35,450 --> 00:55:33,119
look at the James Webb Space Telescope

1525
00:55:37,549 --> 00:55:35,460
I'm so calm I can't believe like the 310

1526
00:55:38,930 --> 00:55:37,559
single points of failure or Miracles or

1527
00:55:40,609 --> 00:55:38,940
whatever I can't believe that thing's

1528
00:55:42,170 --> 00:55:40,619
out there you know yeah

1529
00:55:44,390 --> 00:55:42,180
yeah if there's a Multiverse there's

1530
00:55:46,250 --> 00:55:44,400
certainly many other you know universes

1531
00:55:48,950 --> 00:55:46,260
where it's not out there but it got out

1532
00:55:51,109 --> 00:55:48,960
there and so what it's showing is that

1533
00:55:53,290 --> 00:55:51,119
the Big Bang which I thought was also

1534
00:55:55,849 --> 00:55:53,300
one of these things that sounded like BS

1535
00:55:58,490 --> 00:55:55,859
I thought that for two decades I've been

1536
00:55:59,870 --> 00:55:58,500
ranting against the big thing

1537
00:56:02,630 --> 00:55:59,880
um and again people think you're crazy

1538
00:56:04,790 --> 00:56:02,640
but if they look now and now James Webb

1539
00:56:07,069 --> 00:56:04,800
is showing us that it's it's almost I

1540
00:56:11,329 --> 00:56:07,079
think 200 million years after the

1541
00:56:14,170 --> 00:56:11,339
supposed big bang that uh galaxies uh

1542
00:56:16,609 --> 00:56:14,180
they found a Galaxy fully formed

1543
00:56:19,309 --> 00:56:16,619
so basically that means that the Big

1544
00:56:21,410 --> 00:56:19,319
Bang is not correct like that theory is

1545
00:56:22,970 --> 00:56:21,420
blown out of the water right yeah

1546
00:56:25,370 --> 00:56:22,980
because it takes more than 200 million

1547
00:56:26,690 --> 00:56:25,380
years to form a Galaxy it takes billions

1548
00:56:28,609 --> 00:56:26,700
right and they're current in their

1549
00:56:31,849 --> 00:56:28,619
current argument it's you know first the

1550
00:56:33,890 --> 00:56:31,859
hydrogen formed you know and then the

1551
00:56:36,170 --> 00:56:33,900
healing this made-up argument this this

1552
00:56:40,010 --> 00:56:36,180
made-up story that we believe right that

1553
00:56:41,809 --> 00:56:40,020
you you it's you can't say it against

1554
00:56:43,370 --> 00:56:41,819
um yeah they're finding out it's not

1555
00:56:46,010 --> 00:56:43,380
true it's blown away by the Chain's web

1556
00:56:47,809 --> 00:56:46,020
and because the Galaxy the finding fully

1557
00:56:50,510 --> 00:56:47,819
formed spiral galaxies bigger than our

1558
00:56:52,609 --> 00:56:50,520
own Milky Way 200 million years after

1559
00:56:54,230 --> 00:56:52,619
the supposed redshift ends you know that

1560
00:56:56,030 --> 00:56:54,240
that's again the

1561
00:56:59,270 --> 00:56:56,040
the universe is expanding right this

1562
00:57:01,130 --> 00:56:59,280
this other idea uh that every because

1563
00:57:03,650 --> 00:57:01,140
that's what fits the math right that's

1564
00:57:06,609 --> 00:57:03,660
what fits our math models yeah is that

1565
00:57:08,990 --> 00:57:06,619
the universe is expanding I'm I'm very

1566
00:57:11,089 --> 00:57:09,000
I'm not saying that it's not expanding

1567
00:57:13,010 --> 00:57:11,099
or I think it's not expanding I'm just I

1568
00:57:14,870 --> 00:57:13,020
won't be as surprised in the in the

1569
00:57:17,089 --> 00:57:14,880
least if we find out it's not expanding

1570
00:57:19,370 --> 00:57:17,099
as we understand it that space is not

1571
00:57:21,410 --> 00:57:19,380
expanding uh that it's just some other

1572
00:57:22,849 --> 00:57:21,420
weird concept that we're not even

1573
00:57:24,950 --> 00:57:22,859
considering

1574
00:57:26,450 --> 00:57:24,960
sort of like uh science and the way we

1575
00:57:29,089 --> 00:57:26,460
understand it's almost like grade school

1576
00:57:30,349 --> 00:57:29,099
for elementary you know kids you know

1577
00:57:31,970 --> 00:57:30,359
like because I remember my daughter

1578
00:57:33,230 --> 00:57:31,980
would come home from kindergarten and

1579
00:57:35,210 --> 00:57:33,240
she would show me the things that she

1580
00:57:37,250 --> 00:57:35,220
learned at kindergarten right and it's

1581
00:57:39,109 --> 00:57:37,260
cute but that's the stage that she was

1582
00:57:41,150 --> 00:57:39,119
at that's her world that was her

1583
00:57:42,410 --> 00:57:41,160
understanding and then as the years go

1584
00:57:44,329 --> 00:57:42,420
by every time they're at a different

1585
00:57:47,510 --> 00:57:44,339
level of understanding and and

1586
00:57:49,069 --> 00:57:47,520
scientific awareness she comes home with

1587
00:57:50,690 --> 00:57:49,079
different stuff now like hey did you

1588
00:57:52,309 --> 00:57:50,700
know this and this and this and it's

1589
00:57:54,890 --> 00:57:52,319
really cool but I keep thinking about us

1590
00:57:56,809 --> 00:57:54,900
as a species we're relatively new to

1591
00:57:59,390 --> 00:57:56,819
science you know like we just discovered

1592
00:58:01,730 --> 00:57:59,400
that stuff so for us to think well this

1593
00:58:03,650 --> 00:58:01,740
is the absolute we live within this

1594
00:58:05,870 --> 00:58:03,660
parameter because that's the theories we

1595
00:58:07,849 --> 00:58:05,880
come up with where in fact we're not

1596
00:58:10,069 --> 00:58:07,859
even at grade one right now we're still

1597
00:58:12,170 --> 00:58:10,079
you know we still have to graduate and

1598
00:58:14,990 --> 00:58:12,180
learn a lot more to get to where I think

1599
00:58:16,549 --> 00:58:15,000
this phenomenon is leading us which is a

1600
00:58:18,950 --> 00:58:16,559
little bit above our pay grade right now

1601
00:58:21,109 --> 00:58:18,960
but at least we're aware of them and

1602
00:58:24,530 --> 00:58:21,119
that's the start is to be aware that

1603
00:58:26,569 --> 00:58:24,540
there's something going on here

1604
00:58:29,210 --> 00:58:26,579
but that's just my theory

1605
00:58:31,730 --> 00:58:29,220
yeah I think of it uh I think you made a

1606
00:58:34,190 --> 00:58:31,740
great argument or point

1607
00:58:35,210 --> 00:58:34,200
and I think that's where we are as a

1608
00:58:37,609 --> 00:58:35,220
planet

1609
00:58:39,770 --> 00:58:37,619
and what I see is that the nations are

1610
00:58:42,770 --> 00:58:39,780
joining together I think we're building

1611
00:58:46,069 --> 00:58:42,780
into one giant um

1612
00:58:46,670 --> 00:58:46,079
cell if you will like one neural network

1613
00:58:48,710 --> 00:58:46,680
um

1614
00:58:49,490 --> 00:58:48,720
and I think and I think it's going to be

1615
00:58:51,470 --> 00:58:49,500
awesome

1616
00:58:54,109 --> 00:58:51,480
I think we can make it great for humans

1617
00:58:55,370 --> 00:58:54,119
so we can clean up the planet and I

1618
00:58:58,069 --> 00:58:55,380
think you can still have your own

1619
00:58:59,930 --> 00:58:58,079
countries and have your own cultures

1620
00:59:01,849 --> 00:58:59,940
yeah you know I don't think we need we

1621
00:59:03,530 --> 00:59:01,859
can go to some other example besides

1622
00:59:06,049 --> 00:59:03,540
floor

1623
00:59:10,069 --> 00:59:06,059
um but I see that as what's happening is

1624
00:59:11,329 --> 00:59:10,079
that we're actually the cell is forming

1625
00:59:13,190 --> 00:59:11,339
and I think we're going to find we're

1626
00:59:15,349 --> 00:59:13,200
surrounded by many other probably

1627
00:59:17,270 --> 00:59:15,359
billions of other cells very similar to

1628
00:59:18,829 --> 00:59:17,280
ours right maybe even in a similar

1629
00:59:19,849 --> 00:59:18,839
timeline you know if you look at an

1630
00:59:21,890 --> 00:59:19,859
organism

1631
00:59:23,750 --> 00:59:21,900
like your body when it grows all the

1632
00:59:26,510 --> 00:59:23,760
cells around it are probably around the

1633
00:59:29,809 --> 00:59:26,520
same uh age and structure

1634
00:59:31,910 --> 00:59:29,819
so we could be surrounded by uh other

1635
00:59:35,150 --> 00:59:31,920
worlds other

1636
00:59:36,470 --> 00:59:35,160
um yeah literally billions I wouldn't

1637
00:59:39,410 --> 00:59:36,480
I would be hope I would be

1638
00:59:41,150 --> 00:59:39,420
optimistically surprised yeah especially

1639
00:59:43,670 --> 00:59:41,160
if they had a million year Head Start or

1640
00:59:45,530 --> 00:59:43,680
a 10 million year or more I mean where

1641
00:59:47,450 --> 00:59:45,540
would we be in a thousand years from now

1642
00:59:49,190 --> 00:59:47,460
based on the last 200 years of

1643
00:59:51,049 --> 00:59:49,200
Industrial Revolution we can't even

1644
00:59:53,150 --> 00:59:51,059
imagine that right

1645
00:59:55,430 --> 00:59:53,160
I think we're in right now we're in the

1646
00:59:56,870 --> 00:59:55,440
fastest uh Revolution that's ever going

1647
00:59:59,150 --> 00:59:56,880
to have happened

1648
01:00:01,789 --> 00:59:59,160
yeah it was my fourth video I made on

1649
01:00:02,750 --> 01:00:01,799
YouTube basically from Arc invest I

1650
01:00:05,990 --> 01:00:02,760
don't know if you've heard of them it's

1651
01:00:07,430 --> 01:00:06,000
a U.S firm they've you know um

1652
01:00:08,809 --> 01:00:07,440
they're an investment firm but they

1653
01:00:11,930 --> 01:00:08,819
write good articles and they wrote this

1654
01:00:13,730 --> 01:00:11,940
article on basically the five Innovative

1655
01:00:16,130 --> 01:00:13,740
Technologies that are happening right

1656
01:00:17,750 --> 01:00:16,140
now and they list them out and they say

1657
01:00:21,289 --> 01:00:17,760
each one of these Technologies is

1658
01:00:22,309 --> 01:00:21,299
basically as as uh impactful as a

1659
01:00:25,430 --> 01:00:22,319
telephone

1660
01:00:27,470 --> 01:00:25,440
or the internet you know list them out

1661
01:00:29,450 --> 01:00:27,480
and this is really the the first time

1662
01:00:30,410 --> 01:00:29,460
we're that we're five in a row have

1663
01:00:32,630 --> 01:00:30,420
really

1664
01:00:34,849 --> 01:00:32,640
uh match at the same time you know and

1665
01:00:37,670 --> 01:00:34,859
it's all powered by AI so AI is the

1666
01:00:39,530 --> 01:00:37,680
first one uh blockchain is the second

1667
01:00:41,930 --> 01:00:39,540
one it's like you're a verifiable

1668
01:00:46,190 --> 01:00:41,940
digital contract systems yeah

1669
01:00:51,109 --> 01:00:49,309
um and Robotics was that four and

1670
01:00:52,849 --> 01:00:51,119
genetics is the fifth

1671
01:00:54,710 --> 01:00:52,859
right so that's what they said and I

1672
01:00:56,150 --> 01:00:54,720
thought it was amazing because if you

1673
01:00:58,609 --> 01:00:56,160
look at that if you look at you have uh

1674
01:01:01,670 --> 01:00:58,619
AI is like your processing you're

1675
01:01:03,170 --> 01:01:01,680
thinking uh blockchain is your memory so

1676
01:01:04,910 --> 01:01:03,180
it's like how you store your memory

1677
01:01:07,670 --> 01:01:04,920
systems

1678
01:01:09,230 --> 01:01:07,680
um your robotics uh is your mechanical

1679
01:01:11,210 --> 01:01:09,240
movement

1680
01:01:13,089 --> 01:01:11,220
uh your batteries is like your energy

1681
01:01:15,890 --> 01:01:13,099
store like your fat storage

1682
01:01:18,109 --> 01:01:15,900
and then and then your genetics would be

1683
01:01:20,450 --> 01:01:18,119
that's how it would link

1684
01:01:22,970 --> 01:01:20,460
um it would link to consciousness

1685
01:01:25,370 --> 01:01:22,980
so basically you we're building like a

1686
01:01:26,329 --> 01:01:25,380
super bank if you think of it

1687
01:01:28,010 --> 01:01:26,339
um

1688
01:01:30,170 --> 01:01:28,020
which you're we're each made up of

1689
01:01:31,789 --> 01:01:30,180
trillions of little tiny cells and

1690
01:01:34,069 --> 01:01:31,799
beings anyway so

1691
01:01:36,109 --> 01:01:34,079
uh so that's what I think so I guess I'm

1692
01:01:38,450 --> 01:01:36,119
optimistic that we're that we'll get

1693
01:01:40,309 --> 01:01:38,460
there uh I think they're I think that's

1694
01:01:43,010 --> 01:01:40,319
what's happening if you look at how life

1695
01:01:44,750 --> 01:01:43,020
systems actually work

1696
01:01:51,109 --> 01:01:44,760
um and man I'm blinking on his name the

1697
01:01:54,829 --> 01:01:53,390
well so it's later it's a that's no I

1698
01:01:56,990 --> 01:01:54,839
don't blame you I'm horrible with me

1699
01:01:58,309 --> 01:01:57,000
Chris yeah I'm horrible with names so I

1700
01:01:59,750 --> 01:01:58,319
don't blame you I feel terrible he's

1701
01:02:01,069 --> 01:01:59,760
gonna win the next Nobel Prize in

1702
01:02:03,069 --> 01:02:01,079
genetics probably

1703
01:02:05,809 --> 01:02:03,079
um

1704
01:02:08,329 --> 01:02:05,819
uh okay so anyway what he what he found

1705
01:02:09,470 --> 01:02:08,339
is that if you take a frog right take a

1706
01:02:10,190 --> 01:02:09,480
tadpole

1707
01:02:11,750 --> 01:02:10,200
um

1708
01:02:14,990 --> 01:02:11,760
right when it comes out before it's

1709
01:02:16,430 --> 01:02:15,000
developed and you squiggle the the eyes

1710
01:02:19,430 --> 01:02:16,440
and the mouth and everything around

1711
01:02:22,430 --> 01:02:19,440
right like manually

1712
01:02:25,250 --> 01:02:22,440
what will happen is the cells they will

1713
01:02:28,250 --> 01:02:25,260
actually know how to reform back into

1714
01:02:30,710 --> 01:02:28,260
the original frog tadpole shape right

1715
01:02:32,089 --> 01:02:30,720
the eye will move back the eyes will

1716
01:02:33,770 --> 01:02:32,099
move back it won't look the same it'll

1717
01:02:35,690 --> 01:02:33,780
look like kind of weird like you can see

1718
01:02:39,049 --> 01:02:35,700
he's got these little examples of these

1719
01:02:41,809 --> 01:02:39,059
I mean it's terrible poor tadpoles but

1720
01:02:44,210 --> 01:02:41,819
what it means is somewhere in there

1721
01:02:45,650 --> 01:02:44,220
is a code there's some sort of coding he

1722
01:02:48,349 --> 01:02:45,660
thinks he's found it because he's able

1723
01:02:50,750 --> 01:02:48,359
to code these these little creatures

1724
01:02:52,970 --> 01:02:50,760
um genetically by by electronic pulses

1725
01:02:56,150 --> 01:02:52,980
but somewhere there's a code that the

1726
01:02:58,069 --> 01:02:56,160
the organism knows what the final

1727
01:02:59,990 --> 01:02:58,079
what it's supposed to look like in the

1728
01:03:01,670 --> 01:03:00,000
Final Phase right like when our when our

1729
01:03:03,770 --> 01:03:01,680
arm chops off why doesn't it just go

1730
01:03:06,829 --> 01:03:03,780
back out to a full new arm that'd be

1731
01:03:08,690 --> 01:03:06,839
great yeah lizards can do that yeah you

1732
01:03:10,849 --> 01:03:08,700
know so how does it know right it falls

1733
01:03:12,530 --> 01:03:10,859
off so now new cells are just forming

1734
01:03:14,089 --> 01:03:12,540
it's not like they have them you know

1735
01:03:15,289 --> 01:03:14,099
they must have a blueprint somewhere

1736
01:03:17,870 --> 01:03:15,299
actually because it is what it sounds

1737
01:03:20,690 --> 01:03:17,880
like there's some sort of blueprint but

1738
01:03:23,510 --> 01:03:20,700
the point is life is gonna aim towards

1739
01:03:25,250 --> 01:03:23,520
that final uh the final

1740
01:03:26,750 --> 01:03:25,260
um structure

1741
01:03:29,030 --> 01:03:26,760
it's going to aim towards that finer

1742
01:03:32,329 --> 01:03:29,040
structure however we get there I think

1743
01:03:34,730 --> 01:03:32,339
or die right so I think it could be

1744
01:03:36,710 --> 01:03:34,740
quite painful you know maybe they'll

1745
01:03:39,170 --> 01:03:36,720
have to be terrible Wars or that's part

1746
01:03:41,150 --> 01:03:39,180
of the growing process to get to that

1747
01:03:42,589 --> 01:03:41,160
final structure

1748
01:03:44,089 --> 01:03:42,599
um but hopefully it doesn't need to be

1749
01:03:45,530 --> 01:03:44,099
that painful you know I think with

1750
01:03:47,390 --> 01:03:45,540
information we talked about threats

1751
01:03:48,770 --> 01:03:47,400
right but if we know we can figure it

1752
01:03:51,230 --> 01:03:48,780
out we can figure out that we don't need

1753
01:03:53,089 --> 01:03:51,240
to be a threat at least to China

1754
01:03:55,190 --> 01:03:53,099
um you know America doesn't need to fear

1755
01:03:57,470 --> 01:03:55,200
China China doesn't need to fear America

1756
01:03:59,569 --> 01:03:57,480
Russia can have its own country you know

1757
01:04:01,430 --> 01:03:59,579
whatever just try and not invade your

1758
01:04:04,370 --> 01:04:01,440
neighbors like you know so yeah I think

1759
01:04:09,049 --> 01:04:07,069
um because of that that maybe there is a

1760
01:04:11,329 --> 01:04:09,059
structure that we're aiming towards you

1761
01:04:14,390 --> 01:04:11,339
can kind of feel it you know and I think

1762
01:04:16,849 --> 01:04:14,400
no one can keep up with it no one no

1763
01:04:18,530 --> 01:04:16,859
human can keep track of all the up

1764
01:04:20,809 --> 01:04:18,540
Renovations going on like look at the

1765
01:04:23,150 --> 01:04:20,819
Innovations pick an industry

1766
01:04:25,490 --> 01:04:23,160
look at James Webb you know the more we

1767
01:04:27,349 --> 01:04:25,500
know about the universe for every

1768
01:04:30,289 --> 01:04:27,359
question we find out we get 100 more

1769
01:04:32,450 --> 01:04:30,299
questions yeah you know so yeah I think

1770
01:04:34,430 --> 01:04:32,460
it's just a yeah I think we'll continue

1771
01:04:37,010 --> 01:04:34,440
to find we have a universe to expand

1772
01:04:39,530 --> 01:04:37,020
into I don't know very excited

1773
01:04:40,849 --> 01:04:39,540
nice Chris we thank you so much for

1774
01:04:42,410 --> 01:04:40,859
coming on Louie do you have any final

1775
01:04:44,150 --> 01:04:42,420
questions for us yeah we'll do a plug

1776
01:04:46,069 --> 01:04:44,160
for your show where can people find you

1777
01:04:47,450 --> 01:04:46,079
and if they want to subscribe and uh

1778
01:04:48,109 --> 01:04:47,460
like your content where can they find

1779
01:04:52,370 --> 01:04:48,119
you

1780
01:04:54,410 --> 01:04:52,380
for my name Chris Leda on YouTube it's

1781
01:04:57,890 --> 01:04:54,420
where I put most of my content it's

1782
01:04:59,930 --> 01:04:57,900
called lato files or there's my Twitter

1783
01:05:01,630 --> 01:04:59,940
I I like Twitter as well that's like

1784
01:05:04,630 --> 01:05:01,640
kind of the Town Square

1785
01:05:06,710 --> 01:05:04,640
not too many attacks Chris

1786
01:05:07,970 --> 01:05:06,720
you don't get too many attacks on

1787
01:05:10,250 --> 01:05:07,980
Twitter

1788
01:05:12,049 --> 01:05:10,260
I mean I do

1789
01:05:14,210 --> 01:05:12,059
it's frustrating but then I also get

1790
01:05:15,890 --> 01:05:14,220
there is good debunking you know so I

1791
01:05:19,430 --> 01:05:15,900
can go and spend hours

1792
01:05:21,170 --> 01:05:19,440
on my own and and not even come up with

1793
01:05:23,210 --> 01:05:21,180
probably a good answer I can go spend a

1794
01:05:25,309 --> 01:05:23,220
few minutes just fighting wrestling with

1795
01:05:27,349 --> 01:05:25,319
the default course yeah yeah

1796
01:05:28,849 --> 01:05:27,359
um I think everybody should take it with

1797
01:05:29,750 --> 01:05:28,859
a grain of salt there's a lot of trolls

1798
01:05:33,289 --> 01:05:29,760
out there there's a lot of

1799
01:05:36,109 --> 01:05:33,299
disinformation I try and keep keep uh

1800
01:05:38,210 --> 01:05:36,119
emotional control yeah what's worse is

1801
01:05:39,829 --> 01:05:38,220
when somebody like yourself is doing all

1802
01:05:43,069 --> 01:05:39,839
this research and putting all this time

1803
01:05:44,930 --> 01:05:43,079
and let's face it as a family man this

1804
01:05:46,670 --> 01:05:44,940
sort of stuff that we do you know it

1805
01:05:48,829 --> 01:05:46,680
takes time away from the family right

1806
01:05:50,870 --> 01:05:48,839
it's a sacrifice that you make to put

1807
01:05:52,309 --> 01:05:50,880
this out so when you just get attacked

1808
01:05:54,170 --> 01:05:52,319
by somebody who's sitting on their couch

1809
01:05:56,030 --> 01:05:54,180
eating Cheetos and just replying to you

1810
01:05:58,010 --> 01:05:56,040
on their phone there's nothing more

1811
01:05:59,329 --> 01:05:58,020
aggravating than that right and Louie

1812
01:06:01,309 --> 01:05:59,339
and I are going through that ourselves

1813
01:06:03,650 --> 01:06:01,319
so hang in there you're doing a good job

1814
01:06:05,150 --> 01:06:03,660
the more trolls you have that means that

1815
01:06:06,710 --> 01:06:05,160
you're doing you're you're hitting a

1816
01:06:08,210 --> 01:06:06,720
nerve right so that's what it sounds

1817
01:06:10,250 --> 01:06:08,220
like yeah yeah you have to remember that

1818
01:06:11,750 --> 01:06:10,260
you're right yeah totally right it means

1819
01:06:13,069 --> 01:06:11,760
it means that there's something there I

1820
01:06:16,010 --> 01:06:13,079
think or

1821
01:06:18,710 --> 01:06:16,020
yeah yeah there's uh yeah we need

1822
01:06:19,849 --> 01:06:18,720
traction we need traction yeah yeah and

1823
01:06:21,230 --> 01:06:19,859
there's more people that are going to be

1824
01:06:23,450 --> 01:06:21,240
supporting you and following what you

1825
01:06:25,130 --> 01:06:23,460
got to say the naysayers are going to be

1826
01:06:26,510 --> 01:06:25,140
trying to troll you right they're just

1827
01:06:28,250 --> 01:06:26,520
trying to elicit a response from you and

1828
01:06:30,950 --> 01:06:28,260
go oh my God I'm good because he replied

1829
01:06:32,809 --> 01:06:30,960
right just they die if you don't want

1830
01:06:34,910 --> 01:06:32,819
them well the guy just wants to be known

1831
01:06:36,650 --> 01:06:34,920
he wants his five minutes of fame yeah

1832
01:06:37,970 --> 01:06:36,660
let him have it if you're hitting a

1833
01:06:39,529 --> 01:06:37,980
nerve you're doing it right that's what

1834
01:06:41,690 --> 01:06:39,539
we've been told time and time again so

1835
01:06:42,890 --> 01:06:41,700
good on you for that and thanks for

1836
01:06:44,510 --> 01:06:42,900
being on our show we appreciate your

1837
01:06:46,549 --> 01:06:44,520
time absolutely I know it was difficult

1838
01:06:48,170 --> 01:06:46,559
you're in my family's motherland of

1839
01:06:50,089 --> 01:06:48,180
Portugal and I'm here in Canada with

1840
01:06:52,789 --> 01:06:50,099
Jason but we figured it out we made it

1841
01:06:54,289 --> 01:06:52,799
happen we had an informed educated chat

1842
01:06:55,910 --> 01:06:54,299
you're our kind of guy you're welcome

1843
01:06:57,410 --> 01:06:55,920
back here anytime and in fact we'd love

1844
01:06:59,870 --> 01:06:57,420
to have you back anytime you get some

1845
01:07:02,390 --> 01:06:59,880
free absolutely yeah yeah and uh yeah

1846
01:07:05,089 --> 01:07:02,400
happy to have you guys on uh UAP Society

1847
01:07:06,589 --> 01:07:05,099
sometime okay anytime yeah

1848
01:07:08,390 --> 01:07:06,599
it'd be great to have you guys on thanks

1849
01:07:14,190 --> 01:07:08,400
for having me perfect Chris thank you so